joyinjesus8,You said sad, that doesn't even come close.In the past, I've sat under this man's preaching, have cried and been convicted.There was a time when we would have prayer at 7am from Mon-Fri, and also 24 hour prayer meetings where you could go in for a 4 hour slot, or more, and pray.That doesn't happen now.The demise is so unreal it has to be satanic deception. If not, what is it?This is moving away from the original meaning of the thread, which was drawing analogies of things that don't mean much, until we have to give it to God, like our money.Still, God is good. Praise the Lord!God bless.