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 they do gender strifes

"But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes." - 2Timothy 2:23

[i]...they do gender strifes[/i]

Have thought about this verse from time to time recently and thought I'd post it along with some other translations. Thought it might be a good reminder for us all.

-- American Standard
2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and ignorant questionings refuse, knowing that they gender strifes.

-- Living Bible
2 Timothy 2:23 Again I say, don't get involved in foolish arguments which only upset people and make them angry.

-- Revised Standard
2 Timothy 2:23 Have nothing to do with stupid, senseless controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.

-- Simple English
2 Timothy 2:23 Stay away from foolish and silly arguments. You know they cause fights.

-- Young's Bible
2 Timothy 2:23 and the foolish and uninstructed questions be avoiding, having known that they beget strife,

-- Darby's Bible
2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and senseless questionings avoid, knowing that they beget contentions.

Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2007/3/12 23:00Profile

 Re: they do gender strifes

-- Living Bible
2 Timothy 2:23 Again I say, don't get involved in foolish arguments which only upset people and make them angry.

Hmm, so if I start a topic of conversation that upsets people or make them angry I should avoid it? :-)
-this is slightly off-topic-
It's interesting to see this verse put differently...but seriously, I can see the application of needing to be very careful with my words. I may say something that from my point of view is perfectly fine. But if it invokes an angry or hurt response from the other person than perhaps it didn't come out the way [i]I[/i] thought it did or perhaps it is a topic I should avoid.

Jas 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

Eph. 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

 2007/3/12 23:20

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 Re: they do gender strifes

The Word of God is wonderful!
It echoes, those words echoes.

May I add mine translation also?

--Macedonian Bible
А отфрли ги безумните и неразумните распрашувања, знаејќи дека раѓаат борби!

Phi 4:8 Finally, brethren,

whatsoever things are true,

whatsoever things are honest,

whatsoever things are just,

whatsoever things are pure,

whatsoever things are lovely,

whatsoever things are of good report;

if there be any virtue,

and if there be any praise,

think on these things.

Those things, which ye have both learned,

and received,

and heard,

and seen in me, do:

and the God of peace shall be with you.

 2007/3/12 23:44Profile

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Proverbs 26:21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

James 3:13-18 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

 2007/3/13 6:06Profile

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 Re: they do gender strifes

Proverbs 13:10 "Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom."

Foolish and unlearned questions gender strifes, and only by pride cometh contention.

What do you think is the connection between pride and foolish and unlearned questions? Or is there something else implied here?

Thanks for this reminder brother :-)

Much love in Christian purity in Christ,

 2007/3/13 11:26Profile

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 Re: they do gender strifes

Hi eveyrone. Thank you all for your responses. Vico, I think there is alot to ponder in that question you posed. Maybe it will be something to meditate on for me personally, especially looking back.

I think I've experienced alot of these sorts of questions in speaking to people on the streets. Although it doesn't seem to happen so much anymore and that may have to do with learning how to recognise them and steer the conversations away from them.

A part of this verse just flashed into my mind, perhaps it is go to leave us with for now...

[i]Set a watch, O Lord, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips[/i] - Psalm 141 verse 3

Peace be unto you all in Messiah Jesus

Edit: went back through here and read these verses you all shared again. They really speak!

Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2007/3/13 17:42Profile

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