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 Prayer Request for pastor

i just sent an e-mail whit three sermons to my pastor, two sermons from Zac Poonen and one from Paul washer, pray he will "hear" the message, the state of the church is like most churches.... trying to win the world be being like the world...


pray for the spirit to do a work in him

Christian


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CHRISTIAN

 2007/3/10 8:52Profile
UniqueWebRev
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 Re: Prayer Request for pastor

Christian,

How marvelous for you to try to revive your church!

Am praying for you and your family still.

Many blessings,


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Forrest Anderson

 2007/3/10 9:00Profile
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 Re: Prayer Request for pastor

I am praying, do the same for my pastor. I share many such messages but don't hear much back.


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 2007/3/10 9:19Profile
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 Re: Prayer Request for pastor

We are praying also Christian. We need Godly men behind the pulpits. May the Lord bless you with your endeavours my Brother.

Will pray for your Pastor also dear Goldminer :-)

How will they hear without a shepherd.....


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Ann - but everyone calls me Joy

 2007/3/11 0:03Profile
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 Re: Prayer Request for pastor

Still praying for your pastor, and for you Christian.

Blessings,


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Forrest Anderson

 2007/3/19 4:42Profile
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 Re: Prayer Request for pastor

I will pray for your pastor, Christian. We need to pray for all of God's ministers. What a fearful responsibility they have. I am blessed to have a good pastor. Perfect, no. But he seeks the heart of God and has a Shepard's heart for the people of God. He is reading Apostolic Foundations and I believe God is speaking to him through it. I gave him several sermons by Katz yesterday. He asked me a week or so ago if Katz had sermons available online. He is not that fond or aquainted with computers so I volunteered to burn some cds for him. Even though he asked for them and even though I know he is a seeker of truth, there was still some fear in me in giving them to him. I thought it must be something akin to what a prophet or minister must feel when proclaiming a truth that they know may not be popular or may be rejected. It was strange. Please pray for my pastor too.

Here is an email I sent to some of the intercessors at our church a while back concerning praying for ministers. May we take it to heart.


*On Intercession and Ministry*
Art Katz

Prayer, in my opinion, before, during, and after the public ministry of the word affects the quality and power of the word that goes forth, without which we miss the fullness of God’s intention. Other factors would be our corporate agreement and bondedness together. The taking of communion is a spiritual statement to the Lord (and to the powers of the air) about that unity. If we are not really bonded, and just going along, or we have some unspoken and unresolved things, then that will unquestionably affect the power of the spoken message. This is critical. Are we together sufficiently in God’s sight as to really release a quality of power? It is not just the speaker as being the vocal member bearing the weight of it, but are we all bearing it together with him in participation?

Something of an existential kind is unfolded in proportion to the quality of prayer, identification and bondedness that is true of us. The word is birthed by the spasms and contractions of intercession before it is finally brought forth. The speaker is only being acted upon by what is being released by this effectual prayer and support. For the most part, we do not see the spiritual connectedness, and therefore our prayers are so often desultory and nominal. We are religiously performing something that is expected of us, but our heart and our gut are not in it, not because we are lazy or indifferent, but simply because we have not understood the spiritual reality of the thing.

Whomsoever you are joined in common life together will affect the proclamation, even though it is only one mouth expressing it. Peter’s first sermon, which led to the salvation of thousands of resistant Jews, is an example of this,

But Peter, taking his stand with the eleven, raised his voice and declared to them: "Men of Judea, and all you who live in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give heed to my words" (Acts 2:14).

The key to the power of that address was: "But Peter taking his stand with the eleven." Peter spoke in perfect agreement with those who rose with Him. What he said is precisely what they would have said. They were in agreement, not only with the word, but also with each other, because they experienced a Pentecost themselves together. The fire that was upon their heads also forged them into one.

We have lost this understanding because ours is a ‘professional’ age where individuals are not only celebrated in the world, but also in the church. There is little emphasis on the genius of the Body as the corporate expression and channel of the Life of God. The message may find its expression through one mouth, but the power that is issued is relative to the authentic spiritual agreement and participation in the realm of Spirit. Life and death are always hanging in the balance, and the issue becomes our agreement in order to affect the anointing, power, word and boldness.

The world has really schooled us into an observer mentality rather than participant, and also to a sense of individual separation one from another. But in the Kingdom of God, we are as much responsible corporately for the word as we are for the mouth through which the word issues. This is the whole genius of man and woman in one new man. Can the woman find a depth of satisfaction to hear through her husband that which is in her own heart, and which she might actually have greater ability to express, but wants it to come forth through the head? Is she joined with him, and so identified with him that his success in it is her own satisfaction? We should be so jealous for the word that our only gratification is for the word to come forth in fullness and power through whomever the Lord has appointed. We should see it as being ourselves doing the speaking, because we are so one with that mouth.

Can you hear a message and have your interest engaged and at the same time intercede? That would take a remarkable quality of spirituality, maturity and separation from self. The ultimate sacrifice would be to leave the room and to miss what is taking place, and not even know what is going on, in order to give yourself to intercession. "My house is a house of sacrifice," said our Lord, and that sacrifice, like any act of self-denial, releases an enormous power in that moment. Power is released wherever the principle of the Cross or self-denial is taking place, even the denying of yourself the pleasure and enjoyment of hearing the thing that is going forth, and to separate yourself for intercession even while it is going forth. As long as the prayer is going forth, then the word is going forth, and the moment it ceases, then the word ceases.

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Would to God that we would corporately get this into our spirits. There is so much packed into this article. It is deserving of more than a quick glance and cast into the sea of forgetfulness. There is sermon by the man who wrote this acticle in which he says something like this.....We should assume more of the burdens of the ministries that God brings into our midst. I don't know if you realize all that's involved. There's a great deal of trembling and rumbling bowels that can't be enumerated. It is too much to ask single men to bear that alone. There is fatigue, both physical and spiritual. They're seeking God, for His Word, for this hour, for this people. It's an enormous responsibility: being an agent of life or death for many. That's too much to ask single men to bear. I hope that you'll be weaned from the practice of three second afterthoughts for the ministers that come to your community. That you'll give yourself more fully to supplication and prayer and fasting for the ministers and feel that they're not virtuosos who have some kind of special talent and unlike you they don't tremble before lights and before cameras and before people. You're in it with them and not just called to be a passive spectator. Somehow your responsibility is to under gird them. Not just financially, but in your prayer and support by the Spirit.

Lord, help us to understand the magnitude and importance of this.
Much Love,
Hope

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