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EvanSchaible
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 Governmental Heresy (The heresies of Moral Government)

I have recently undertaken a daunting and rather unwilling task. In the open air preaching world there is a vicious heresy circulating - moral government theology - specifically their view of the atonement. Here is an article and a vinidication I have written in regards to a main scripture this camp of theology uses.

Declaring His righteousness:
[url=http://www.fireonthealtar.com/7/evanschaible/2092/Declaring+His+righteousness.html]Declaring His Righteousness - E. Schaible[/url]

And here I tried to the best of the ability that God has given me to vindicate the doctrine of the universal atonement in order to show the next logical step is not limited atonement:

"The universal atonement is very simply reconciled when one takes into account the present mediatorial work of Christ at the right and of the Father.

"But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises" (Heb. 8:6) "And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. " (Heb. 9:15). Jesus was "raised again for our justification" so that He can "save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them".

Jesus stands at the right hand of God, and His mediatorial work is such that anyone who repents and believes the gospel can be saved. "God commands all men everywhere to repent" and "is not willing that any should perish but all should come to repentance" and I say with Charles Spurgeon, "Do not we wish for all to be saved? Are we more benevolent than God?" "For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself" (Heb. 9:26).

So with this we can now see that the so-called logical conclusion of the punishment view is not limited atonement. Jesus' life, death, burial and resurrection procure salvation for any and all who repent and believe. The only thing limited in the extent of the atonement are the benefits - full present salvation based on the finished work of Christ - as only those who repent and believe reap those benefits. The death of Christ is sufficient for all, but efficient only for those who repent and believe.

-- Evan Schaible
[url=http://www.FireOnTheAltar.com/7/evanschaible]The Devotional Works of Evan and Liz[/url]

PS: make sure to watch for the article as they come and only as God leads. Thank you and God bless you.


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Evan Schaible

 2007/3/7 16:46Profile
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 Re: Governmental Heresy (The heresies of Moral Government)

Also, here is another article addressing the proper view of the atonement of Christ as scripture presents, as well as a expundation of what it means to truly be holy and how exactly that is attained.

True Holiness:
[url=http://www.fireonthealtar.com/7/evanschaible/1976/True+Holiness.html]True Holiness - E. Schaible[/url]

This, in fact, is the article that shown the light upon the heresy and prompted this undertaking as it strikes at the very jugular vein of the true gospel and tries to drain it of its life giving blood.

-- Evan Schaible
[url=http://www.FireOnTheAltar.com/7/evanschaible]The Devotional works of Evan and Liz[/url]


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Brother Evan,

I have posted both of your articles in the forums here on SermonIndex so people can discuss them. I think you are hitting on alot of very worthy subjects that need to be prayed over and discussed according to the scriptures. Keep up the work for our Master dear brother.

[b]True Holiness -schaible[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15424&forum=36&0

[b]Declaring His righteousness -schaible[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15425&forum=36&0


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