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hmmhmm
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Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.


I'm right now studying every verse whit either cross crucified or similar words in them, going through them all, and in this verse the word destroy is by Thayer's definition means this

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καταργέω
katargeō
Thayer Definition:

1) to render idle, unemployed, inactivate, inoperative
1a) to cause a person or thing to have no further efficiency

1b) to deprive of force, influence, power

2) to cause to cease, put an end to, do away with, annul, abolish

2a) to cease, to pass away, be done away

2b) to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from any one

2c) to terminate all intercourse with one
Part of Speech: verb


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this is the sin part, but also to live and be affected by this world as to do the will of our father, is that a possibility? to be as much in the fathers will as Jesus was,



When I read this part I have quoted above I thought of something that Andrew Murray wrote...

Such a life has two sides-on one side, absolute surrender to work what God wants [i]you[/i] to do; on the other side. to let God work what [i]He[/i] wants to do.

First, to do what God wants you to do. Give yourselves up absolutely to the will of God. You know something of that will; not enough, far from all. But say absolutely to the Lord God: "By Your grace I desire to do Your will in everything, every moment of every day." Say: "Lord God, not a word on my tongue but for Your glory. Not a movement of my temper but for Your glory. Not an affection of love or hate in my heart but for Your glory, and according to Your blessed will."

Someone says: "Do you think that possible?" I ask, What has God promised you, and what can God do to fill a vessel absolutely surrendered to Him? Oh, God wants to bless you in a way beyond what you expect. From the beginning, ear has not heard, neither has the eye seen, what God has prepared for them that wait for Him (1 Cor 2:9). God has prepared unheard-of-things, blessings much more wonderful than you can conceive. They are divine blessings. Oh, say now: "I give myself absolutely to God, to His will, to do only what God wants." It is God who will enable you to carry out the surrender.

And, on the other side, come and say, "I give myself absolutely to God, [i]to let Him work in me to will and to do of His good pleasure[/i], as He has promised to do."

Yes, the living God wants to work in His children in a way that we cannot understand, but that God's Word has revealed. He wants to work in us every moment of the day. God is willing to maintain our life. Only let our absolute surrender be one of simple, childlike, and unbounded trust.

-from [i]Absolute Surrender[/i] by Andrew Murray


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 Re: is it possible to walk in perfect holiness?

check out this thread, it may help.

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=13902&forum=36&59]entire sanctification...Really?[/url]


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I may be wrong, but I believe that we can walk without doing the things that we know as sin today, but the closer you get to light the more imperfections are revealed. The closer my walk with Christ, the more I see in me that is wrong that I didn't see yesterday.
" If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 john 1:8
There are things in all of our lives that today we don't know as sin. Maybe God will reveal those things to us as sin tomorrow.


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divdasunder wrote:
I may be wrong, but I believe that we can walk without doing the things that we know as sin today, but the closer you get to light the more imperfections are revealed. The closer my walk with Christ, the more I see in me that is wrong that I didn't see yesterday.
" If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 john 1:8
There are things in all of our lives that today we don't know as sin. Maybe God will reveal those things to us as sin tomorrow.





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 Re: is it possible to walk in perfect holiness?

It is possible to work in Holiness ask Adam and Eve They were holy Before the Fall Right?

 2007/3/4 16:09Profile
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i don't mean that one would come to a state where we never could sin again, but by the mercy of God working through us and we in obedience do what we have to do, and we die to self completely so he can control all of us, could we come to such a total surrender so that we could walk "sinless" and holy as Jesus was, then i believe even if that was possible...it would also be possible to fall away from that to.


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