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Christinyou wrote: Romans 3:19-31 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
The Law brings those that are under the Law to Christ. The Holy Spirit brings us to the knowledge of sin and to Christ. All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God. The Law cannot save to the utmost, only Christ can save and He nailed the Law to His Cross that all might be saved by Grace through Faith. That is the Jew by Faith and the Gentile through Faith. The Jew by their faith which originates in God and the Gentile through the Faith of Jesus Christ that is born again in us.
Galatians 2:14-17 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
The Jews were and are saved by repentance and believing in Christ and being baptized with water. Salvation by faith.
The Gentiles are saved by believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and through the Faith of Jesus Christ are born again by Incorruptable Seed which is Christ the Word of God. Salvation through Faith.
Romans 3:29-31 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision (((by))) faith, and uncircumcision (((through)))
faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Yet in Christ there is neither Jew or Gentile, for we since the Cross are all baptized into one Spirit, not water.
1Cr 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
The living water He wanted to give the woman at the well.
Jhn 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
Jhn 4:11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on Me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
The Incorruptable Seed of God the Father and river of Living Water Himself, Jesus Christ, that is our salvation, the mystery hidden until it was given to Paul by Jesus Christ Himself.
Colossians 1:26-28 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
We are not Hebrew Christians. We are son's of God by the Christ-One that is in us, Christ-ones by The Son of God Himself, not Jews or Gentiles.
In Christ: Phillip
Hi Phillip
AMEN to all of that!
Just wondering though, are you responding to what I said, or to someone else, or in general?
I only ask because I get the impression that you maybe wrote this because you [i]think[/i] you disagree with me 8-)
In fact you are talking about the most important (and also everlasting) of what I call "the two Israel's" - the spiritual one.
So I agree!
In Him
Jeannette
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| 2007/6/3 6:32 | |
| Re: | | Diane always had such a good way of putting things.
"Am I sinning against anyone if I regard all who are saved, whether Jew or Gentile, as part of this kingdom and nothing else? And if God does have a special role for our Jewish friends in a future era, surely that he can take care of it. Surely we don't need to overly strain that issue. That just seems to get us into messy quagmire and rifts. How can we know who are genetically linked to Abraham? I may very well be. And with so many proselytes having been added to Judaism over the centuries, even during Bible days, I don't think we can easily make two distinct groups of people, apart from a lot of misfires. Why! I just read on a site where the New Jerusalem was "proven" to be the Bible Belt in the USA (Wouldn't that make Abraham groan!) "
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| Re: | | Why are you dragging up ancient posts to support your opinions that most Christians oppose? |
| 2015/10/29 17:44 | |
| Re: | | I brought up a conciliatory remark from Diane, because I think we should remember that we love the Lord and each other.
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