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Do any of you Greek and Hebrew scholars know what the root word for Siloam is? I have heard from another teacher that it means 'missle of attack'. Is this true?

 2007/2/12 20:37
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[b]John 9:7[/b] [color=990000]And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of [b]Siloam[/b], ([u]which is by interpretation, [b]Sent[/b][/u].) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing. [/color]

 2007/2/12 21:12Profile
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Siloam = "sent"

of Hebrew origin 07975 Strongs

From the root meaning:

1) to send, send away, let go, stretch out

a) (Qal)

1) to send

2) to stretch out, extend, direct

3) to send away

4) to let loose

b) (Niphal) to be sent

c) (Piel)

1) to send off or away or out or forth, dismiss, give over, cast out

2) to let go, set free

3) to shoot forth (of branches)

4) to let down

5) to shoot

d) (Pual) to be sent off, be put away, be divorced, be impelled

e) (Hiphil) to send


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 2007/2/13 0:46Profile
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Jason,

I agree with what the others who posted that it means "sent". It is also called called "Shelah" in Neh. 3:15. I would also add that it got its name "sent" from the time Hezekiah built a tunnel to pipe the water to keep it from being consumed by the oncoming Assyrian armies at Jerusalem.

That is one good reason to be a good Berean and examine what you hear and make sure that it is sound.

As an aside, the Lord really opened my eyes (no pun intended) how this Nehemiah passage foreshadowed the whole event of John 9 healing of the blind man. The builder of the Fountain Gate (Shallun son of Col-Hozeh) literally means reward of all vision. He is from Mizpah, which means "watch" (in regards to keeping a covenant between two parties). The Fountain Gate is literally "Eye Gate" for fountain and eye are interchangeable in the Hebrew. Of the ten gates mentioned in this Nehemiah chapter, it is the only one that was "covered" which is the only time used in the OT, which means strewn or spread over. It is interesting to note that John used a similar word in the Greek to describe the overspreading of mud over the blind man's eye (it also is a word only used in the NT to describe that). It is a really beautiful illustration of the Lord Jesus Christ and how God silently plans centuries before in love to glorify His Son.

Blessings to you,

Ken


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 2007/2/13 6:35Profile









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The reason I ask is this.

If you'll notice, the verse and chapter spell out 911 out of the book of John. The tower that fell in the book of Luke was also named Siloam. This hit me as mysterious. Why arent preachers everywhere getting this if it were true?

 2007/2/13 21:58
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Jason,

You may know this already, but the chapter divisions and verses in the Bible are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. They were added many centuries later as an aid. I have heard some quote the verse from John 6:66 how they all left Jesus as pointing to Antichrist. There are a lot better principles of how to study God's word than playing with the numbers of chapters and verses.

Do you suppose that by Jesus speaking about the tower of Siloam falling that He had in mind an isolated event (i.e., the September 11th disaster 20 centuries in the future) and not a message for the Church for all times and all ages? The tower of Siloam has its meaning when you take into consideration the entire chapter of Luke 13. If you have the habit of extracting single verses to find a meaning, you're going to go astray. Perhaps you may want to revisit those same verses, waiting upon God for light to change your heart and fixing your focus upon Himself. The goal of Bible study ultimately is to know the Lord.

God bless you on your pursuit of knowing Him,

Ken


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 2007/2/13 22:31Profile









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Josiah777 shared

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As an aside, the Lord really opened my eyes (no pun intended) how this Nehemiah passage foreshadowed the whole event of John 9 healing of the blind man. The builder of the Fountain Gate (Shallun son of Col-Hozeh) literally means reward of all vision. He is from Mizpah, which means "watch" (in regards to keeping a covenant between two parties). The Fountain Gate is literally "Eye Gate" for fountain and eye are interchangeable in the Hebrew. Of the ten gates mentioned in this Nehemiah chapter, it is the only one that was "covered" which is the only time used in the OT, which means strewn or spread over. It is interesting to note that John used a similar word in the Greek to describe the overspreading of mud over the blind man's eye (it also is a word only used in the NT to describe that). It is a really beautiful illustration of the Lord Jesus Christ and how God silently plans centuries before in love to glorify His Son.

WOW! Thank you for taking time to share this.

You know what comes to my mind? Something about planks and specks..... and having our eyes [i]washed[/i] so we can see clearly.

 2007/2/16 15:29









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Josiah777 wrote:
Jason,

You may know this already, but the chapter divisions and verses in the Bible are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. They were added many centuries later as an aid. I have heard some quote the verse from John 6:66 how they all left Jesus as pointing to Antichrist. There are a lot better principles of how to study God's word than playing with the numbers of chapters and verses.

Do you suppose that by Jesus speaking about the tower of Siloam falling that He had in mind an isolated event (i.e., the September 11th disaster 20 centuries in the future) and not a message for the Church for all times and all ages? The tower of Siloam has its meaning when you take into consideration the entire chapter of Luke 13. If you have the habit of extracting single verses to find a meaning, you're going to go astray. Perhaps you may want to revisit those same verses, waiting upon God for light to change your heart and fixing your focus upon Himself. The goal of Bible study ultimately is to know the Lord.

God bless you on your pursuit of knowing Him,

Ken

Personally, I'm ill equiped in studying the bible "properly", but thank you for the advice. I find everything about the bible intreaging, even the numbers, and the way punctuation is used, every jot and title, but thank you for the advice.

 2007/2/16 16:58









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Josiah777, your post about the Eye Gate, reminded me of a passage in the sequel to 'Mister God, this is Anna', by Fynn, which is called 'Anna and the Black Knight'.

(Anna was a small child who went to live with Fynn's family when she was five, and he was nineteen. Anna died when she was eight, but, she was a remarkable child who thought about everything.)

This is a quote from some of Anna's own writing.

'...Fin say if you live in a howse and you let the window get ploshd and dirty and if you look out of the window it look like the world is dirty, but it is not. If you look inside it look dirty too, but it is not dirty becas the window is dirty. Will I will say sum more of Fin because Fin say all of the peple have two windows. First all peple have got eye window and then a hart window. The eye window is to llok out and seen thing from and the hart window is to see inside to see you. Fin say wen you cry it is for to wash the window so you can see better.

One day, I ask Fin for some sweet and Fin say no and I was sad and I cry som ters and I cry some ters to wash my eye window becas my eye window was all dirty, dirty with greedy for sweets. And Fin did not say nothing and Fin piket me up and ut me to a luking glas to see my face reflecshun and it was all funy like rain on a house window. And I culd not see proper and then I stop the cry and see Fin face reflecshun and it was all smiling. And so I smile too and then I see my eye sparkling because I can see good.

And then I see that Fin say no becas he have got no mony, becas he give it all to Missis Barker to buy som penuts to sell to get some mony to buy some food and I did not see good, because I have got a dirty eye window and it was all splosht with greedy dirty.'


I find the idea of a 'hart window' intriguing, and very helpful.

 2007/2/17 9:54





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