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consume12
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 Movies?

Jesus was in the world not of the world. I think are personal convictions would take a different turn, if we understand Jesus would never go into a movie theater (full of the world) to be entertained. I haven't been in 3 years and I haven't missed it one bit. Eph. 5 is clear. I believe there is a time for rest and enjoyment, but I believe much of what we do for entertainement is a waste of time, especially for a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

 2007/2/3 14:07Profile
HomeFree89
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 Re: Movies?

Consume12,

You're totally right! Another thing is why would Moody and Torrey preach against the theatres if they were harmless?

Jordan


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 2007/2/3 15:10Profile
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 Re: Movies?

Some years ago when I was a pastor, I walked into my church office after a Sunday morning service to find a sandwich bag on my desk containing three chocolate brownies. Some thoughtful and anonymous saint who knew my love for chocolate had placed them there, along with a piece of paper that had a short story written on it. I immediately sat down and began eating the first brownie as I read the following story:

Two teenagers asked their father if they could go the theater to watch a movie that all their friends had seen. After reading some reviews about the movie on the internet, he denied their request.

"Aw dad, why not?" they complained. "It's rated PG-13, and we're both older than thirteen!"

Dad replied: "Because that movie contains swearing and portrays immorality, which is something that God hates, as being normal and acceptable behavior."

"But dad, those are just very small parts of the movie! That's what our friends who've seen it have told us. The movie is two hours long and those scenes are just a few minutes of the total film! It's based on a true story and good triumphs over evil, and there are other redeeming themes like courage and self-sacrifice. Even the Christian movie review websites say that!"

"My answer is 'no,' and that is my final answer. You are welcome to stay home tonight, invite some of your friends over, and watch one of the good videos we have in our home collection. But you will not go and watch that film. End of discussion."

The two teenagers walked dejectedly into the family room and slumped down on the couch. As they sulked, they were surprised to hear the sounds of their father preparing something in the kitchen. They soon recognized the wonderful aroma of brownies baking in the oven, and one of the teenagers said to the other, "Dad must be feeling guilty, and now he's going to try to make it up to us with some fresh brownies. Maybe we can soften him with lots of praise when he brings them out to us and persuade him to let us go to that movie after all."

About that time I began eating the second brownie from the sandwich bag and wondered if there was some connection to the brownies I was eating and the brownies in the story. I kept reading...

The teens were not disappointed. Soon their father appeared with a plate of warm brownies which he offered to his kids. They each took one.

Then their father said,
"Before you eat, I want to tell you something: I love you both so much."

The teenagers smiled at each other with knowing glances. Dad was softening.

"That is why I've made these brownies with the very best ingredients. I've made them from scratch. Most of the ingredients are even organic. The best organic flour. The best free-range eggs. The best organic sugar. Premium vanilla and chocolate."

The brownies looked mouth-watering, and the teens began to become a little impatient with their dad's long speech.

"But I want to be perfectly honest with you. There is one ingredient I added that is not usually found in brownies. I got that ingredient from our own back yard. But you needn't worry, because I only added the tiniest bit of that ingredient to your brownies. The amount of the portion is practically insignificant. So go ahead, take a bite and let me know what you think."

"Dad, would you mind telling us what that mystery ingredient is before we eat?"

"Why? The portion I added was so small. Just a teaspoonful. You won't even taste it."

"Come on, dad; just tell us what that ingredient is."

"Don't worry! It is organic, just like the other ingredients."

"Dad!"

"Well, OK, if you insist. That secret ingredient is organic...dog poop."

I immediately stopped chewing that second brownie and I spit it out into the waste basket by my desk. I continued reading, now fearful of the paragraphs that still remained.

Both teens instantly dropped their brownies back on the plate and began inspecting their fingers with horror.

"DAD! Why did you do that? You've tortured us by making us smell those brownies cooking for the last half hour, and now you tell us that you added dog poop! We can't eat these brownies!"

"Why not? The amount of dog poop is very small compared to the rest of the ingredients. It won't hurt you. It's been cooked right along with the other ingredients. You won't even taste it. It has the same consistency as the brownies. Go ahead and eat!"

"No, Dad...NEVER!"

"And that is the same reason I won't allow you to go watch that movie. You won't tolerate a little dog poop in your brownies, so why should you tolerate a little immorality in your movies? We pray that God will not lead us unto temptation, so how can we in good conscience entertain ourselves with something that will imprint a sinful image in our minds that will lead us into temptation long after we first see it?

I discarded what remained of the second brownie as well as the entire untouched third brownie. What had been irresistible a minute ago had become detestable. And only because of the very slim chance that what I was eating was slightly polluted. (Surely it wasn't...but I couldn't convince myself.)

What a good lesson about purity! Why do we tolerate any sin? On the day of the Passover, the Israelites were commanded to remove every bit of leaven from their homes. Sin is like leaven—a little bit leavens the whole lump (1 Cor. 5:6). Jesus, "our Passover" (1 Cor. 5:7), and sin, don't mix.

Help us, Lord, to "cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor. 7:1).
Hate evil, you who love the Lord (Ps. 97:10).
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil (Prov. 8:13).

God Bless

TJ

PS

This is not my personal story...a friend gave it to me.


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 2007/2/3 16:52Profile
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Quote:
Some years ago when I was a pastor, I walked into my church office after a Sunday morning service to find a sandwich bag on my desk containing three chocolate brownies. Some thoughtful and anonymous saint who knew my love for chocolate had placed them there, along with a piece of paper that had a short story written on it. I immediately sat down and began eating the first brownie as I read the following story:

Two teenagers asked their father if they could go the theater to watch a movie that all their friends had seen. After reading some reviews about the movie on the internet, he denied their request.

"Aw dad, why not?" they complained. "It's rated PG-13, and we're both older than thirteen!"

Dad replied: "Because that movie contains swearing and portrays immorality, which is something that God hates, as being normal and acceptable behavior."

"But dad, those are just very small parts of the movie! That's what our friends who've seen it have told us. The movie is two hours long and those scenes are just a few minutes of the total film! It's based on a true story and good triumphs over evil, and there are other redeeming themes like courage and self-sacrifice. Even the Christian movie review websites say that!"

"My answer is 'no,' and that is my final answer. You are welcome to stay home tonight, invite some of your friends over, and watch one of the good videos we have in our home collection. But you will not go and watch that film. End of discussion."

The two teenagers walked dejectedly into the family room and slumped down on the couch. As they sulked, they were surprised to hear the sounds of their father preparing something in the kitchen. They soon recognized the wonderful aroma of brownies baking in the oven, and one of the teenagers said to the other, "Dad must be feeling guilty, and now he's going to try to make it up to us with some fresh brownies. Maybe we can soften him with lots of praise when he brings them out to us and persuade him to let us go to that movie after all."

About that time I began eating the second brownie from the sandwich bag and wondered if there was some connection to the brownies I was eating and the brownies in the story. I kept reading...

The teens were not disappointed. Soon their father appeared with a plate of warm brownies which he offered to his kids. They each took one.

Then their father said,
"Before you eat, I want to tell you something: I love you both so much."

The teenagers smiled at each other with knowing glances. Dad was softening.

"That is why I've made these brownies with the very best ingredients. I've made them from scratch. Most of the ingredients are even organic. The best organic flour. The best free-range eggs. The best organic sugar. Premium vanilla and chocolate."

The brownies looked mouth-watering, and the teens began to become a little impatient with their dad's long speech.

"But I want to be perfectly honest with you. There is one ingredient I added that is not usually found in brownies. I got that ingredient from our own back yard. But you needn't worry, because I only added the tiniest bit of that ingredient to your brownies. The amount of the portion is practically insignificant. So go ahead, take a bite and let me know what you think."

"Dad, would you mind telling us what that mystery ingredient is before we eat?"

"Why? The portion I added was so small. Just a teaspoonful. You won't even taste it."

"Come on, dad; just tell us what that ingredient is."

"Don't worry! It is organic, just like the other ingredients."

"Dad!"

"Well, OK, if you insist. That secret ingredient is organic...dog poop."

I immediately stopped chewing that second brownie and I spit it out into the waste basket by my desk. I continued reading, now fearful of the paragraphs that still remained.

Both teens instantly dropped their brownies back on the plate and began inspecting their fingers with horror.

"DAD! Why did you do that? You've tortured us by making us smell those brownies cooking for the last half hour, and now you tell us that you added dog poop! We can't eat these brownies!"

"Why not? The amount of dog poop is very small compared to the rest of the ingredients. It won't hurt you. It's been cooked right along with the other ingredients. You won't even taste it. It has the same consistency as the brownies. Go ahead and eat!"

"No, Dad...NEVER!"

"And that is the same reason I won't allow you to go watch that movie. You won't tolerate a little dog poop in your brownies, so why should you tolerate a little immorality in your movies? We pray that God will not lead us unto temptation, so how can we in good conscience entertain ourselves with something that will imprint a sinful image in our minds that will lead us into temptation long after we first see it?

I discarded what remained of the second brownie as well as the entire untouched third brownie. What had been irresistible a minute ago had become detestable. And only because of the very slim chance that what I was eating was slightly polluted. (Surely it wasn't...but I couldn't convince myself.)

What a good lesson about purity! Why do we tolerate any sin? On the day of the Passover, the Israelites were commanded to remove every bit of leaven from their homes. Sin is like leaven—a little bit leavens the whole lump (1 Cor. 5:6). Jesus, "our Passover" (1 Cor. 5:7), and sin, don't mix.

Help us, Lord, to "cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor. 7:1).
Hate evil, you who love the Lord (Ps. 97:10).
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil (Prov. 8:13).

God Bless

TJ

PS

This is not my personal story...a friend gave it to me.Thats a sd


Thats a fantastic story!!

It reminds me of a story that a dripping tap can make a mountain fall into the sea or a frog thats been heated up in hot water slowly dies!!
Jesus deliver me from my sins and that mentallity!!
Jesus deliver me from the small problems in my life because they are big to you!!!


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 2007/2/3 19:12Profile
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"...especially that they would warn the young people to avoid the devil's man-traps, especially the cinema and the public house..."
(Duncan Campbell - When God stepped down from Heaven)

 2007/2/3 20:49Profile
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 Re: Movies?

I am glad others are talking about this topic. I have been preaching about the dangers of the entertainment that many American church attenders enjoy for the past year or so now. Certainly not popular among the young people but it is sad when God tells us to seek good and hate evil yet the very evil we are to hate is often found in the entertainment we enjoy. That is not hating evil.
Even if you were to find a honestly good movie with great morals and talked about Christ I think waiting for the movie to come out on video is best because when you go into the theater there are posters that are not pleasing to our Lord and it is a very worldly atmosphere.
It saddens me that there is so little difference in entertainment standards between the church and the world.
I wish someone would have talked to me about entertainment when I was younger.

In His service,
Preacheraflame


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Steve

 2007/2/4 5:26Profile
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A good book on this topic is: Tozer on Worship and Entertainment. It was a great deal of help to me.

Jordan


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 2007/2/4 13:44Profile
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It's been on my list for awhile now. I will go ahead and get it. Thanks for the post.

God Bless

TJ


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 2007/2/4 14:12Profile









 Re: Movies?

Quote:
Jesus would never go into a movie theater

I beg to differ with you my brother/sister.
When we go into that theatre, He goes in to. We carry Him into places that are not fitting. He does not stop at the door and say, "I'll be right here when you get back", no sir.

Thats why it tells us not to grieve the holy Spirit whereby we've been sealed unto the day of redemption. Eph 4:30

If He walked on the Earth today in bodily form, would He walk into a movie theatre? Maybe yes, maybe no, it depends if faith is drawing Him in there. Faith is like homemade apple pie to God, one whiff and God is right there to dig in.

 2007/2/4 17:34









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I'm always amazed at Christian websites that review movies... and list all the filth thats in them, and then still give it a favorable review.

Why not let the review be something like this:

(I'm just picking a random movie...)

Gridiron Gang: Avoid at all costs. Contains filth and sin.

End of review.

And it's amazing that these Christian reviewers watch all these movies, and then write a review. Who are these people, and why are they filling their own minds with trash so they can let other Christians know it's trash?

It's like back in the 80's I remember there was a whole study done on pornography. Ed Meese, James Dobson, and a bunch of other high profile governmental and religious leaders on that committee... and they watch 100's of hours of pornography... and then reported that pornography is bad for society.

Are you telling me that those Christian leaders had to watch 100's of hours of porn to determine it was bad for society??? How about [b]GOD SAID IT WAS SIN![/b] You dont need to watch it! God's already spoken.

Talk about stupidity...

Krispy

 2007/2/5 10:39





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