So, is tongues the initial physical evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit? Are there other manifestations that can occur besides tongues?
1. No2. Yeswould you like a longer answer? ;-)
Sure, a longer answer would good. I say tongues can be, but is not always the "initial physical evidence." I would say the Scriptures surely make room for any prophetic utterance (tongues, prophecy, song/praise), especially considering the nature of the Joel 2:28-32 prophecy. I might would go far as to say any gift that is manifest is evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.Btw, I ask this because I'm writing a paper about the initial evidence for my Doctrine of the Holy Spirit class. So far, everybody in the school save for one or two others (none of which are in my class) seems to say dogmatically, tongues is the initial physical evidence, every time.
I can say from experience that tongues is NOT the only evidence. I have been prayed for- up and down, all around, knocked down :-D , etc... and no sign of tongues. Yet, I can feel the Holy Spirit's presence when it is heavier than normal. Other people have been around me and said that they feel the Holy Spirit very strong around me- yet I feel nothing different.What I do feel many times is a heavy pressure on my forehead and my eyelids flutter if I try to keep them closed. Many times I tremble or shake if I am talking to someone seriously about the Lord. Now I know why they were called Quakers or Shakers. :-D To quote Oswald Chambers- the evidence is "character". If we have the Holy Spirit- we have the power to be changed- to walk in righteousness. In Him, Chanin
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Hi ptcAn old friend of mine went to be with the Lord last years, just a couple of days after his 90th birthday. He wrote a leaflet on this topic which might be usueful in your studies. His style sometimes has long sentences but there is usually gold in what he wrote.This link will take you to a page of pdfs, scroll down until you find one called Initial Evidence and see what you think.The classic 'proof' texts are in Acts 10 with Cornelius, but we can return to this later. When is your assignment due?
Before you can claim that scripture teaches about an 'initial' evidence of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, you will have to ask yourself is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit a different event then the regeneration (salvation) of an individual.
This link will take you to a page of pdfs, scroll down until you find one called Initial Evidence and see what you think.
When is your assignment due?
A difficult subject for anyone to say for sure I think. One thing that I found interesting is that in a book by Leonard Ravenhill I read, Len said something like nobody can show from scripture that speaking in tongues is the intial evidence and nobody can show from the scripture that it isn't.If you want the exact quote and book I will have to find it.Mike
A difficult subject for anyone to say for sure I think. One thing that I found interesting is that in a book by Leonard Ravenhill I read, Len said something like nobody can show from scripture that speaking in tongues is the intial evidence and nobody can show from the scripture that it isn't.