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Chariot
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 Re:

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What eloquence!! I'm relucant to share...



I feel the same way as you Chad. Not to sound redundant, but this thread has been a blessing and most edifing - kudos to all the posters here ;-)

Normally on a thread like this one i would just sit back, listen in and marvel at the thoughts these vessels of God share, who tipping slightly over pour streams of godly wisdom on the rest of us - myself, soaking up the many scattered gems.

Yesterday at work, while on break, i was reading through the opeining chapters of Luke, and i just kept musing over Luke 2:11-12 - our Lords birth, a baby wrapped in clothes and lying in a manger. Then i catch eye of Ron's signature, a quotation from Murray, "The measure of His sacrifice for you will be the measure of your willing surrender to Him in all things."

This sharp juxtoposition of our Lord's humble birth and his harrowing death...and our surrender to Him in all things has begun to prick my mind. Alongside this thread, is has jolted me from a subtle complacency that has crept over me these past few months in serving God and has sharply brought to mind my woeful laxity in prayer.

*off to thumb through and reread Murray's 'With Christ in the School of Prayer'*

Blessings Saints
Rob

 2006/12/13 11:51Profile
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 Re: Simeon: a man filled with the Spirit

"...the Holy Spirit was upon him."

"It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit
that he would not die before he had seen the Lord's Christ."

"Moved by the Spirit, he went into the temple courts." (in other words, the Spirit revealed to Simeon that the child would be coming to the Temple that day)

These three references about the Spirit’s work in Simeon’s life have probably been much ignored and discounted because this doesn’t fit well into certain theological systems. A footnote in the Study NIV presents an unnecessary caution regarding the Spirit upon Simeon: “Not in the way common to all believers after Pentecost”. What hogwash! - no doubt a residual of Dispensationalism. I also suspect that it doesn’t fit well into the modern charismatic view of the Spirit.

We must break through these theological roadblocks before we can appreciate the significance of the Spirit in the life of Simeon, and translate it to our own lives and the life of the Church - and also the broader society.

"He was waiting for the consolation of Israel " Lk. 2:25

Consolation G3874 [paraklēsis]
comfort, consolation, exhortation, intreaty;
encouragement, calling to one’s aid

What is this consolation?
Where in the New Testament do we find other references to the "consolation" [paraklēsis]
How can we proclaim it today?

Diane


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 Re: The Comforter has Come


O spread the tidings ’round, wherever man is found,
Wherever human hearts and human woes abound;
Let ev’ry Christian tongue proclaim the joyful sound:
The Comforter has come!

The Comforter has come, the Comforter has come!
The Holy Ghost from Heav’n, the Father’s promise giv’n;
O spread the tidings ’round, wherever man is found—
The Comforter has come!

The long, long night is past, the morning breaks at last,
And hushed the dreadful wail and fury of the blast,
As o’er the golden hills the day advances fast!
The Comforter has come!


Lo, the great King of kings, with healing in His wings,
To ev’ry captive soul a full deliverance brings;
And through the vacant cells the song of triumph rings;
The Comforter has come!


O boundless love divine! How shall this tongue of mine
To wond’ring mortals tell the matchless grace divine—
That I, a child of hell, should in His image shine!
The Comforter has come!

Text: Frank Bottome


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Brother Mike wrote...

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I may offer something small in return...it has helped me greatly in recent months to turn off the news media in my home, car, and especially in my head. Enough stuff gets through anyways..



I may have written about this at some point in the past. My sharing seems to go in seasons. That is, I will share about the things I see in Scripture, and then there are seasons where I am consumed, as you have witnessed in what you have wrote above, in the boilings seas of this world.

There was a season about 7 years ago, where I was consumed in the events of history and this world. At one point, one moment, I thought to myself, this emersion in the worldly affairs is taking away from my joy that I find in Scriptures. I prayed out of desperation, "Lord, am I wasting time and effort in this endeavor?" A moment passed, and then the word "linked" appeared in my mind. This word "linked" brought together two points which before seemed like two distant thoughts totally unrelated to each other. I had been studying the U.S. policy of containment of Communism, developed in Eisenhower administration and also the policies of the Regan adminstration. There is too much to write hear, but when the word 'linked" appeared, I understood the whys behind the events. I saw a little bit about what motivates men. I saw a little about the nature of this fallen world. And after a while I understood where Solomon's wisdom came from.

Brother, I thank you also for what God is working in your heart and mind. We learn, as time goes on, how the "church" is ordained by God, as the means by which we are to share the grace of the gifts given to us by Him who is over all things. Unity comes as we are seperated from the hopes of this world.

I have much to learn about what it means to love my family, and my brother and sisters in Christ. My carnal nature is prone to seek isolation from people and their "problems." But Jesus told His disciples, come and I will make you fishers of men.

God Bless
Jeff


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Anna did not need pulpit, credentials, or position. Nor did she need permission from the authorities. She had all she needed: a little obscure corner, with the Word and the Spirit. She had been thoroughly trained by God in the place of prayer, and that was enough. At 90 yo, she was a seasoned prophetess. In the fullness of time God opened the door for her ministry. And no man could shut it!



Luke 9:48 and said to them, “Whoever receives this little child in My name receives Me; and whoever receives Me receives Him who sent Me. For he who is least among you all will be great.”

I've started reading the thoughts of George Warnock. His work is on this site. He seems to be like Anna. His calling seems small compared to the leaders who stand before the crowds. But I suspect that George has lived a much fuller life like that of Anna.



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This is interesting. Anna was not from the House of Judah, not a Jew, but of the House of Israel. She was a true Israelite by heredity. Had not the northern tribes all been dispersed among the Gentiles (nations) and Samaria



The faithful of all tribes were drawn back in the days of Nehemiah and Ezra. Paul was of the tribe of Benjamin.

Ezek. 37:19 say to them, “Thus says the Lord GOD: ‘Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.” ’

I believe this Scripture speaks of what God would do when He called His people back after the 70 years of the dispersion.

In Christ
Jeff


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Sis wrote:

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We must break through these theological roadblocks before we can appreciate the significance of the Spirit in the life of Simeon, and translate it to our own lives and the life of the Church - and also the broader society.



Life is filled with "roadblocks." The Scriptures will make straight the way if we submit to what we hear.

Keep preachin Sis...

God Bless

In Christ
Jeff


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 Re:

Brother Rob quoted...

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"The measure of His sacrifice for you will be the measure of your willing surrender to Him in all things."



Living this kind of life, is living on the edge of what is not known. I shrink back from that edge, and it becomes foolishness.

Prov. 1:32 For the turning away of the simple will slay them,
And the complacency of fools will destroy them;

Prov. 3:35 The wise shall inherit glory,
But shame shall be the legacy of fools.

It is wise to be "jolted" from complacency.

God Bless you Brother Rob

Jeff


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"The measure of His sacrifice for you will be the measure of your willing surrender to Him in all things." Murray



This is one of those quotes that takes your breath away.

Silences all argument or excuse.

There is no retort no response, only a crying out,

"Lord I surrender, help thou my surrendering!"

Blessed be His Name! KDB

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 Re: encouraging one in the faith

MC:

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coddling their unbelief in God's salvation as a type of innocent weakness...


Ron:
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Thank you for the clear, battle-cry voices in this thread to urge us on so that we might not brood instead of acting and allow depression to block out the face of God, then we are left with ourselves... wounded grasshoppers.


Rookie:
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Pray for me that I would no longer run and fret over the boiling seas around me, but that I would cast my eyes upon Jesus..


No sin is more difficult to detect than this insidious, but devastating sin called “unbelief” – at least, I can say that for myself. It is easy to slip without knowing it. I would even suggest that it is virtually impossible to detect in ourselves. Checking each other for this one particular sin is perhaps one of the most important functions of fellowship.

“See to it brothers,
that none of you has a sinful,
unbelieving heart
that turns away from the living God.
But encourage one another daily ,
as long as it is called Today
so that none of you may be hardened
by sin’s deceitfulness.”[ie unbelief] Heb. 3:12

The responses of this thread have been food for my soul, and a powerful check against my own tendency to drift into unbelief. I see the following scriptures being practised:

“And let us consider
how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.
Let us not give up meeting together,
as some are in the habit of doing,
but let us encourage one another –
and all the more as you see the day approaching.” Heb. 10:24,25

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I have moved from cynicism towards belief in revival.



Of course. It is not about man’s impotence, but about God’s omnipotence. Can we trust that he will fulfill his promises?

“Comfort ye..” Is. 40:1

… the consolation of Israel.” Lk. 2:25

What is the relationship between this promised "comfort" and "belief"?

Diane


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 Re:

Jeff

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Living this kind of life, is living on the edge of what is not known. I shrink back from that edge, and it becomes foolishness.



I nod in agreement. Like Peter asking Jesus to call him out onto the water, so are we when we first come to know our Lord, eager to meet him where he is. But as can happen over time, we no longer even want to come to the edge of the boat.

God Bless you to Bro Jeff

KDB
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This is one of those quotes that takes your breath away.
Silences all argument or excuse.



My sentiments exactly. The only thing left to do is surrender - in faith.

Diane
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It is not about man’s impotence, but about God’s omnipotence. Can we trust that he will fulfill his promises?



That such a small shift in perspective can have such a profound effect - to spur one on toward rest in Jesus.

To be like Martha, who sat at the Lord's feet listening to what he said. She had chosen what is better, the one thing needed.

Blessings,
Rob

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