| Poster | Thread | Delboy
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| | Re: | | May I just interject, without stemming the flow,
So can we assume correctly, that we heare God speak we then choose to act that is therefore simple faith?
this comes to mind
[color=0000FF]Rom 10.17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. [/color]
is this related to your thoughts above?
just my pennies worth :-)
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derek Eyre
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|  2006/11/7 7:21 | Profile | philologos
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| | Re: | | Quote:
is this related to your thoughts above?
Exactly so. However, I'm not going to be around to continue the conversation as I have an early morning flight.
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Ron Bailey
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| | 2006/11/7 9:47 | Profile | DesiJr
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| | Re: | | Philogos,
I believed you answered that question prematurely...if you would have kept on reading the entire statement you would have seen the answer to that question. |
| | 2006/11/7 12:38 | Profile | DesiJr
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| | Re: | | Here you go Philogos.... because I think you missed it....
This may lead one to ask, is God capable of making bad decisions concerning man's welfare?
Then I thought of Jesus' words where he said I didn't lose one that you gave me. And how the word says that no one can pluck out of God's hand His own people.
It seems that there is a contradiction here.
However, I believe that this shows how mankind, because of their tendency towards things that are evil can upset the plans that God has for their own welfare. This is evident throught the entire Bible. That is why Jesus had to die the death that NO MAN man should have to taste (which is obvious he speaks not the mortal death).
If we look at the first chapter of Romans Paul describes two types of people, those who follow the light of their own consciences and those who trade the truth of God for a lie.
Yes, man, because of Adam's decision, inclines himself to sin. And left without God would of course be a completely wicked being. But this is not the makeup of man. God breathed into mankind his Spirit, this makes us different from animals. We can decide for ourselves to follow after the light that God deposited in us or deny it.
Those who follow after it are those like,
Abel, Job, Abraham (these men existed before the law of Moses, yet after Adam so they were sinners) and were counted as righteous because they lived by faith and let the Spirit or the light of their consciences guide them.
Nothing has changed today. Except of course that now we have overcome our battle by FAITH in the blood of Jesus to maintain righteousness because of our sinful nature. He did it once and for all. Think of those words...He died only ONE time for all....for EVERYONE.
I believe that those who agree that man is completely wicked and incapable of making a desicion to surrender to God on their own free will are belittling God as a creator. If we are a creation (mankind) who is NOT capable of making a desicion to surrender our wills to God then you would be saying that we are like cows, or cockroaches WITHOUT CONSCIENCES! This is a lie, we know right from wrong, Why?, because the God has imparted into every human being a part of who He is. This guides us, this tells us what is wrong or right. This confirms to us that the Gospel is Truth!! Those who deny this light are telling God in essence, "No thanks God, I don't need Your rules for my welfare, I think I can control my life and make my own rules." So a hardening of the heart takes place.
Just as sin entered the ENTIRE WORLD through one man (Adam) and cause God to damn all mankind to hell. Now, grace sufficient enough to cover all of that sin that damned the entire world to hell has been defeated and has entered into the ENTIRE WORLD!! through one man (Jesus). Praise the Lord! This is the Good News!! And just typing it out makes me want to shout Hallelujah and Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lamb.
My brothers be free! This is why Christ died! Go out and proclaim this Good News. Christ died for the wicked, and the Light that God has deposited into every man we pray will bear witness to the truth of the Gospel and lead them to repentance, salvation and right standing with God through faith in the Holy One of Heaven.
God Bless You,
Let others see the reason for your joy,
Desi, Jr. |
| | 2006/11/7 12:44 | Profile | rookie
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| | Re: | | Brother Ron asked:
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Do you think James is referring to a crisis or a process?
I am not quite sure what you mean by crisis or process, but looking at the content of Scripture in James, he is encouraging the beloved brethren to go beyond what they have experienced in the Lord thus far. J. Vernon Mcgee often refered to the book of James as the college education for the believer.
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You will need to define 'salvation' before I can comment on this question. I distinguish, but do not necessarily separate, justification and regeneration.
When I was about 3 years old in the Lord, I was struggling with what the preachers were teaching at church and what I was beginning to see in Scripture. These issues focused on what is faith? I prayed during that crisis, "Lord teach me how you save me."
Since then He has been teaching me precept upon precept, line upon line, here alittle there alittle.
I do not have a definition of salvation, only the path of where I have been, and the seach for where He is leading me. He is removing that which I once hoped in and replacing with His "life" a new found and unending growth in treasure.
God Bless
Jeff
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