Do you think that a born-again, Spirit filled, chruch-going Christian can manifest a demon?

What do I mean by manifest? Falling to the ground, growling, kicking, screaming and so forth.

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Keith

yes i believe so. I think there's been a lot of debate about scripture on this, but i think its important to remember the massive amount of spiritual influence/warfare there is going on around us that the bible warns us about, and how to prepare for it. And I don't think Christians suddenly get taken off the playing field at salvation.

but i think the stronger Christ's influence is on our lives the stronger our defence is. But i think if we open ourselves up to sin, eg drugs, pornography etc and real true Christians do slip into this stuff then i believe a demon can heavily influence that area of our lives, which may result in manifestation etc.

Also, i think as soon as we think we are free from this kind of thing because we're Christians, we let down our guard, which is even more dangerous.

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Ron Bailey

1 Cor 6v19 says...do you not know that your
body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you... If someone has the Holy Spirit in them how then can they be demon possessed? It is not enough to suppose it can happen, we have to see from scripture that it has happened. What is happening nowadays in the name of Christendom compared to what scripture says is worlds apart. Nothing in scripture suggests the disciples rolled on the floor, growled, kicked or any other such manifestations. For my part, these manifestations are soulish.
Heb 4v12...piercing even to the division of soul and spirit... Some Christian, instead of being spiritual, are soulish. They mistake their soulish emotions for spirituality, are confused, and even though they can't find those practices in the Bible, will accept them as being from God because they 'feel' good about it. 1 Thess 5v21 tells us to test or prove all things. Isaiah 8v20 says, To the law and to the testimony. If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. There is a book by Watchman Nee called The Latent Power of the Soul, which demonstrates that Chrisians mistake emotion for spirituality. If it is not in the word of God why accept it? As one poster said, what does the Book say? If someone can find, from scripture, that a Cristian can be both demon possessed, and filled with the Holy Spirit of God, at the same time, then please do so. God bless.

ill go out on a limb here & say i think they can,
why?
ive had it happen to me, for a period of time whenever i raised my hands in worship they would pull backwards as being pulled back that was the feeling. i noticed though that whenever i would say Jesus as i was praising or in worship it seemed to stop,abruptly.

i guess there are people who will say, show me it in the bible. i cant. all i know is this is the experiance & there is more to it that lead God delivering me of this.
through repentance & confession, forgivness.
& how sweet it was to see the light & glory & the purity of the freedom that Jesus Christ can bring.
how did i know i was set free the biggest way i knew was when ever after this period i would worship there was no manifestation at all or reaction to the name of Jesus.
i didnt growl, shake or roll around.
but there was a manifestation & i was clean i really felt Jesus in the room cleaning me.

id been a christian Spirtfilled & growing in the fruit & gifts of the Spirit for over 5 yrs.
i believe a spirit cannot live in your spirit, but it can manifest in your body & affect it
thanks

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scot

Quite simply: NO. If we are posessions of God, and posessed by His Spirit there is no room for the demonic. That is not to say that we cannot be attacked by Satan and his minions, but it is quite impossible from what I have studied in scripture for a believer to be demonically posessed. Influenced by, or flesh yeilded to is definitely a different thing. I hope that helps.
Grace and Peace!

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Dave

No

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D.Miller

Evangelical Dictionary of Theology says:

The specilaized expression for Demon possession(daimonizomai) is not found in the scriptures. Scholars trace it to Josephus. The common synoptic construction is daimonion echein(to have a demon).

Greek expressions and words describing demons and their influence:

A. Terminology

1. “Devil” (Greek diablos)= Slanderer, a title of Satan himself.
Used only in the singular.

2. “Demon” (Greek diamon or diamonio): A spirit regarded by heathen as divine or semi-divine. Heathen religion normally cultivates or seeks to appropriate these ‘demons.’

3. Wrongly translated in KJV as ‘devil’ or ‘devils.’ Used interchangeably with ‘evil spirit’ or ‘unclean spirit’ (compare Matt 15:22 with Mark 7:25; Mark 5:2 with Luke 8:27. See also Rev. 16:13-14.)

B. Three different greek expressions normally used to describe the influence of demons

1. To have an unlcean/evil spirit. See Matt. 11:18; Mark 7:25; 9:17; Luke 4:33; 8:27; 13:11; John 7:20; 8:48-49, 52; 10:20-21

2. To be in an unclean/evil spirit (Modern English-to be under the influence of.) See Mark 1:23; 5:2

3. To be demonized. KJV incorrectly translates to be “possessed with devils.” There is nothing in the greek to support the use of the word “possessed,” which is completely misleading. See Matt. 2:24;8:16,28,33; 9:32; 12:22; 15:22; Mark 1:32; 5:15, 16, 18; Luke 8:36

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Giancarlo

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Keith

bro worldview
that is a most interesting testimony...i think there is a point to be made about opression vs possession. we know from the word that no Christian can be demon possessed, but coming to the Faith doesn't ward of the enemy, it in fact draws him in to attack us that much more. i've heard of similar things and experienced similar things also...there is much more to this issue than our individual perceptions, much more to scripture and God than our individual perceptions too. i pray our Lord increase our knowledge of Him.

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Farai Bamu