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Bravado or heavenly stature By Lars Widerberg
Reading: Num 14
1. Israel at Kadesh-Barnea. On the edge of entering. At the threshold of obtaining. Finally making it. Just send some spies to gather up-to-date information on the situation beyond the border send them in to see what ordinary men cannot see, send men of stature. Write a report, write positively we have been walking for long under horrible conditions. Ours is a hope of general blessings according to promises made. Ours is a hope of special favours because they say we are a special people. Israel at Kadesh-Barnea, not knowing where they were, not understanding the spiritual meaning of their position in time and spiritual geography.
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2. Kadesh, a location in the wilderness of Paran between Shur and Edom sometimes called En-mishpat, the fountain of judgment. Kadesh, an indispensable stop along the path of ascent into the fullness of the Lord. Kadesh holds the significance of sanctification; it covers the necessity of thorough preparation for the unconventional. Its meaning and role is something very much more and something altogether different than a long awaited turning point in routines, something far beyond a hopeful response to the all too common altar-call and invitation to get blessed by the guest-speaker of the night. Kadesh-Barnea reappears in the spiritual geography of pilgrimage from time to time as a site at which the people chosen to be vessels for the testimony re-gather and convene to open up for the Lord to have His way with His people. Israel missed the mark at that first gathering. A repetitious behaviour occurs among the people of God even today, when horns are blown and a voice calls out: Next stop, Kadesh.
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3. Now, the spies were sent. They were all men of stature. They had all visited Kadesh before during their inner walk with the Lord. Two of them proved later on to stand the test amidst the necessary confrontation and pressure at the intersection where spiritual values are brought to bear on physical realities.
These men had gone a long way in the preparation which was meant to enable them for leadership, for the role of being helpers of the many men and women who were chosen to live and walk in an ever increasing fullness of Christ. What they went through at their Kadesh was in a sense prophetic as to the development of the kind intention of the Lord which he purposed in Christ with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is a summing up of all things in Christ. Eph 1:9-10.
Kadesh signifies a space, a locality in mind, heart and spirit with men as well as in time and geography in which God holds the first, really the only place. Kadesh, when it is allowed its proper role, is a situation in which the Lord thoroughly and totally rules. This is sanctification, to be set aside for the purposes of God, something set aside as a vessel for the administration of the fullness of Christ.
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4. Again, these men were set aside for the purpose of an example of stature and for leadership. They had been thoroughly dealt with in the school of Moses. These spies were fully prepared to take on hardship and to overcome any and every obstacle coming in their way in this new realm of operation. They were trained to survive, even more, they were mature men able to stay strong and courageous for the sake of a sound report and for continuity. They were overcomers. These men leave us questions to ponder: What is an overcomer? What is the main object, the first and foremost obstacle as to which this particular frame of mind is set fort as the only possible way of ministration and management?
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5. At the point of return these brave men soberly stated that the protection, the covering literally, the shadow had been removed from the peoples occupying the land into which the Lord of Hosts intended to take them, Num 14:9. One might say that the power of the cross of Christ already was in operation, Col 2:15. Their shadow had faded, due to the presence of something or someone who had a far greater potential pertaining to protection, provision and peace. No fear needed to take heed to, not even in the valley of the shadow of death.
This is in short our position and foundational viewpoint regarding to the matter of overcoming. The enemy, any enemy, once and for all overcome through the power of the blood of Jesus. The enemy is conquered for the sake of the full and unlimited presence and authority of the Father. But, this foundational, high potency fact is reinterpreted with great hurry and efficiency into common categories of ordinary man. Flesh reappears at the center of the scene of revelation, reinforcing its position by means of a strong hand, clever thinking and lots of pumping adrenaline with the sole intention of taking the Kingdom by force. It opens the mind to great prospects, but prospects rooted and embedded in gross misunderstanding publicly announcing easy pain reduction, declaring any problem to be solved by swift cuts by the sword of the Word. What we are left with is an overcoming intensely occupied with the enemy rather than a proper realisation of Kades-Barnea sanctification in progress, an ever increasing yieldedness, an ever growing occupation whit the One sitting at the Thorne in Heaven.
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6. The report of the returning spies triggered a reaction at full blast from the desert mind: All the congregation lifted up their voices and cried, and the people wept that night. And all the sons of Israel grumbled. Num 14:1-2. At the point of preparation for the unconventional, even for the unattainable, there was but grumbling. The Father, the Lord of Hosts, had a plan in motion since long with a view to an administration suitable to the purpose of his own, which is to allow Christ to be all in all. For this reason Kadesh-Barnea is a moving sanctuary. It is portable. It takes you everywhere. Without it you will go nowhere.
Kadesh is present everywhere the absolute necessity to give the Lord the first place, even the only place. Kadesh moves with us into every situation, demanding the vindication of the Lord. Kadesh is set fort as the only approach to overcoming in any given situation the willingness to step down, to yield, to give God the absolute right to judge, instruct and to command.
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7. Overcoming is none of your business, except for obeying. Overcoming does not lie within your realm of decision making, except for accepting the will and way of the Lord. An overcomer learns to avoid the many traps and pitfalls projected to stir the flesh and mind to try to be strong without the Lord. The overomer learns to say no to the many additions and pluses to salvation and overcoming which the shadows present to tease your senses or impose by heavy pressure. Salvation is by the Lord, not by techniques. Overcoming is not a set of neat principles to follow, it is a full scale giving up of rights and personal prospects for the sake of presenting a heart open to the grace of God.
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7. Overcoming is none of your business, except for obeying. Overcoming does not lie within your realm of decision making, except for accepting the will and way of the Lord. An overcomer learns to avoid the many traps and pitfalls projected to stir the flesh and mind to try to be strong without the Lord. The overomer learns to say no to the many additions and pluses to salvation and overcoming which the shadows present to tease your senses or impose by heavy pressure. Salvation is by the Lord, not by techniques. Overcoming is not a set of neat principles to follow, it is a full scale giving up of rights and personal prospects for the sake of presenting a heart open to the grace of God.
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8. After a full night of crying and grumbling in the camp of Israel, Kadesh turned into En-mishpat, the fountain of judgment. And the judgment was harsh and drastic. This people of Israel, under the shadow of the Lord, flip from a state of thick darkness to the practical opposite. We are going to take the kingdom by force and that at this very moment. Was this change in line with spiritual reality, in accordance to true concepts of overcoming? This was a people which did not want to obey when the Lord gave instructions. This was a people who tried to overrule the judgments of the Lord, claiming covering and applying promises in a situation in which the Lord did not take part.
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9. This is the heart of the false overcoming. This is spiritual bravado. Man taking the right to apply promises according to his own mind. Man taking the right to claim covering, moving in into areas of spiritual confrontation on his own. But they went heedlessly. This was a people wavering between the prospect of eating themselves to death at the tables in Egypt, even contemplating suicide in the wilderness right in front of the Tabernacle and taking the new land, the promised land in a spirit of bravado a vaunted display of courage and self-reliance. They were swaggering, blinded to the true nature of overcoming.
Modern categorising would soon find these poor fellows to have been contracting a charismatic neurosis finding them to being tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine, stirred to temporary action by fanciful projects laid before them by men without stature. Men of stature follow hard after the Lord in a pursuit to serve with a view to an administration suitable to fullness and stature in the fullness of the times perfectly according to the purpose of God.
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