My point in my earlier post was not defending Bush, or to attack everyone.the point was to be careful not to believe everything the media says. They are so bent to show that Bush was a liar. He didnt lie about WMD's. This was because of faulty intelligence. So people need to stop blaming him for that.Also, did anyone hear about the audio tapes that were confirmed by the CIA to be Sadaam, where he actively talked about moving stockpiles of his weaponry to Iran. Even some of Sadaams ex-Generals said he had weapons, even if they werent Nukes, they were still used to kill innocent people. But you will never hear that from the media. They just downplayed the story and almost never reported it.We cannot be deceived by people that just hate christians and want to bring them down.I am not saying that Bush is a christian, obviously his fruit exposes himself. And I'm sure he could have lied about some things, but we need to be careful in exposing him using corrupt info. Washington Post is corrupt with these kind of people, as well as other major newspapers. We need to pray for our leaders to repent, and to follow christ. Peace and safety to you allgod bless
bro Chrisi hear you and what i said was that all these allegations which are coming out should be cause enough for us to consider that maybe something is indeed amiss and like you said we have to investigate further. there is indeed a lot of mud-slinging from the democrats which really is of no good, it seems they've not figured out a way to question the administration without shrilling at the tops of their lungs or appearing irrational which causes them to be mocked by the republicans also. you're right bro there are some things i disagree with Bush on but bro i do thank the Lord for the good which has been done under this administration but i hear from heaven also that a lot of shady things have been done and they are going to be exposed. there are some times when in my spirit i know that i know that what is being said is a pack of lies and it grieves me. however i'm also guilty of some shady things as we all are and it shall all be brought to the light. at the end of the day the Lord placed bush there in power in order to see His will done. i don't doubt the president to be saved, however since he is our brother in Christ we should examine the fruit from not only his tree but our own. if we see rotten fruit then we need a pruning...
For what purpose does this serve?New U.S. Embassy in Iraq cloaked in mysteryBaghdad locale, slated to be completed in 2007, to be largest of its kindBAGHDAD, Iraq - The fortress-like compound rising beside the Tigris River here will be the largest of its kind in the world, the size of Vatican City, with the population of a small town, its own defense force, self-contained power and water, and a precarious perch at the heart of Iraqs turbulent future.The new U.S. Embassy also seems as cloaked in secrecy as the ministate in Rome.We cant talk about it. Security reasons, Roberta Rossi, a spokeswoman at the current embassy, said when asked for information about the project.A British tabloid even told readers the location was being kept secret news that would surprise Baghdadis who for months have watched the forest of construction cranes at work across the winding Tigris, at the very center of their city and within easy mortar range of anti-U.S. forces in the capital, though fewer explode there these days.The embassy complex 21 buildings on 104 acres, according to a U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee report is taking shape on riverside parkland in the fortified Green Zone, just east of al-Samoud, a former palace of Saddam Husseins, and across the road from the building where the ex-dictator is now on trial.The Republican Palace, where U.S. Embassy functions are temporarily housed in cubicles among the chandelier-hung rooms, is less than a mile away in the 4-square-mile zone, an enclave of American and Iraqi government offices and lodgings ringed by miles of concrete barriers.5,500 employees at the embassyThe 5,500 Americans and Iraqis working at the embassy, almost half listed as security, are far more numerous than at any other U.S. mission worldwide. They rarely venture out into the Red Zone, that is, violence-torn Iraq.This huge American contingent at the center of power has drawn criticism.The presence of a massive U.S. embassy by far the largest in the world co-located in the Green Zone with the Iraqi government is seen by Iraqis as an indication of who actually exercises power in their country, the International Crisis Group, a European-based research group, said in one of its periodic reports on Iraq.State Department spokesman Justin Higgins defended the size of the embassy, old and new, saying its indicative of the work facing the United States here.Its somewhat self-evident that theres going to be a fairly sizable commitment to Iraq by the U.S. government in all forms for several years, he said in Washington.Higgins noted that large numbers of non-diplomats work at the mission hundreds of military personnel and dozens of FBI agents, for example, along with representatives of the Agriculture, Commerce and other U.S. federal departments.They sleep in hundreds of trailers or containerized quarters scattered around the Green Zone. But next year embassy staff will move into six apartment buildings in the new complex, which has been under construction since mid-2005 with a target completion date of June 2007.Iraqs interim government transferred the land to U.S. ownership in October 2004, under an agreement whose terms were not disclosed.Embassy Baghdad will dwarf new U.S. embassies elsewhere, projects that typically cover 10 acres. The embassys 104 acres is six times larger than the United Nations compound in New York, and two-thirds the acreage of Washingtons National Mall.Estimated cost of over $1 billionOriginal cost estimates ranged over $1 billion, but Congress appropriated only $592 million in the emergency Iraq budget adopted last year. Most has gone to a Kuwait builder, First Kuwaiti Trading & Contracting, with the rest awarded to six contractors working on the projects classified portion the actual embassy offices.Higgins declined to identify those builders, citing security reasons, but said five were American companies.The designs arent publicly available, but the Senate report makes clear it will be a self-sufficient and hardened domain, to function in the midst of Baghdad power outages, water shortages and continuing turmoil.It will have its own water wells, electricity plant and wastewater-treatment facility, systems to allow 100 percent independence from city utilities, says the report, the most authoritative open source on the embassy plans.Besides two major diplomatic office buildings, homes for the ambassador and his deputy, and the apartment buildings for staff, the compound will offer a swimming pool, gym, commissary, food court and American Club, all housed in a recreation building.Security, overseen by U.S. Marines, will be extraordinary: setbacks and perimeter no-go areas that will be especially deep, structures reinforced to 2.5-times the standard, and five high-security entrances, plus an emergency entrance-exit, the Senate report says.Higgins said the work, under way on all parts of the project, is more than one-third complete.end of article...What fruit will this bring? It reminds me of Scripture...Micah 7:2 The faithful man has perished from the earth, And there is no one upright among men. They all lie in wait for blood; Every man hunts his brother with a net. 3 That they may successfully do evil with both hands The prince asks for gifts, The judge seeks a bribe, And the great man utters his evil desire; So they scheme together. 4 The best of them is like a brier; The most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge; The day of your watchman and your punishment comes; Now shall be their perplexity. In ChristJeff
What fruit have YOU brought by showing this article?Of course your going to build a big compound where you are under the threat of being bombed!
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Of course your going to build a big compound where you are under the threat of being bombed!
The threat of Islam will take years to erase, if not impossible. It takes much needed education in that area, unfortunately, I dont believe they will be taught christ. I feel the U.S is taking appropriate steps needed to secure itself, just look at Israel.I feel this will help us out in the long run.I also am not saying that I agree that we should be in this for the long haul, but my brother already told me they are building huge Barracks to house the soldiers out there. Please pray for him, his name is Will. He is actually scheduled to go back out there two weeks after my wedding(early August). Please pray for his salvation and safety.Thank you for this good dialogue Rookie. May the Lord continue to bless your life brother.
The threat of Islam will take years to erase, if not impossible.
It takes much needed education in that area, unfortunately, I dont believe they will be taught christ.
I feel the U.S is taking appropriate steps needed to secure itself
Of course the only real security we have is in christ, everything else is vanity. Islam is a deadly threat anybody who doesnt believe in Allah.If we reach out to Iraqis with the love of christ, and pray for salvation for their souls, we wouldnt have anymore enemy, called Islam.When I said that the US is taking appropriate steps to secure itself, I mean for the safety of the Americans Physically. Not spiritually.This reminds me, I read that after WWII, One of the Generals for the U.S. in the pacific recommended 45,000 missionaries go to the area. I would definitely say that is needed today, but unfortunately thats not gonna happen. Leonard Ravenhill said it best when he said that:"The only thing we learn from history, is that we dont learn from history"God bless all
I brought up the idea of Clinton and Gore being Southern Baptists to raise the point of fruit inspection, just like these posts that I have made to point to the actual lies that do exist in this administration. The deeds men do in darkness will come to the light.
13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? 14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant? 15 And the captain of the LORD's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.
WMD aside, Saddam Hussain Provoked the U.S., U.N., and the Entire Arab world with his shenanigans, terror,and wars. Forgotten the Invasion of Kuwait already? How about the Iran/Iraq war(8 years) He planned an invasion on Saudi Arabia, thats why U.S. troops were there in the first place. What about his threats to "Incinerate Israel"? This man and his savage sons RAPED woman, put people in MEAT GRINDERS, and used WMD on a kurdish uprising KILLING THOUSANDS. He also taunted the world and had to be cooped up in a "No-fly" zone for 11 years costing the US millions of dollars. I know Arabs(Iraqis) in this country who hate Saddam Hussain, and are glad he is gone. Saddam is a thug. Hussain kept the peace in Iraq by CRUSHING DISSENT BRUTALLY! The Iraqis know his crimes better than anybody and he will now get to answer for them. May God receive his soul. "The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth" Ps.34:16