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| An End of the Year Message from Israel | | "These last months since October 7th are very hard to sum up. The war continues and hostages are still held in Gaza. We switched much of our efforts to war relief work for the first weeks of the war, delivering food and supplies to those who have been dispatched and soldiers. There were constant needs in the first month. Recently, as rocket fire has decreased, we have been able to resume in person Bible studies. Shabbat dinners and other efforts are along side providing aid and relief. People really need the fellowship and to be encouraged. We are hosting trauma seminars with a faith base to help people cope with practical tips and more to find hope and strength in the Lord."
"Every interaction these days goes deep quickly. Peope are hurting and need others. It's common to meet a stranger on the street who seems a bit confused or distraught and offer help, and they say they feel shaken to be alone. Would I walk them to a shop or home? We sit and talk. People's emotions are raw. We all know someone who was killed on October 7th. We all have family or friends serving in the military. It's such an important time to be available to people, listen and share and show God's love."
"The rise in global antisemitism is deeply concerning. Recently, so many people from other countries have stories of the rising antisemitism in their countries."
"The conversations and prayer times have been so meaningful. Worshiping the Lord together is healing and strenghtening for next things ahead." (END)
Meanwhile, I found a a contemporary check list of similiar characteristics, attitudes, and actions that preceded and led to the antisemitic actions that led to the events that occurred in WW II against Jews. They are marked with a check because we are seeing them again as if almost a carbon copy of former haunting events not so far in the past.
The dangerous rhetoric? ☑️ The scapegoating of Jews? ☑️ The blood libels? ☑️ Boycotting of Jewish businesses? ☑️ The verbal attacks in the streets? ☑️ The physical violence against Jews? ☑️ The political/diplomatic Jew hatred? ☑️ The cultural icons going anti Jewish? ☑️ Blatant discrimination against Jews? ☑️ Deafening silence from the world? ☑️
We have been here before. _________________ David Winter
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2024/1/22 10:01 | Profile |
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| Re: An End of the Year Message from Israel | | David, Honest question…. is there anything that a Jewish person or group could do that would merit criticism in your view? _________________ Fletcher
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2024/1/22 17:12 | Profile |
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| Re: | | Yep. _________________ David Winter
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2024/1/22 17:13 | Profile |
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| Re: yep | | Could you elaborate or perhaps give an actual example?
I only ask because all the “checks” in the list could be applied to most people groups at one time or another, some being merited while others actual discrimination-
Again ftr, before the antisemitic accusations start flying, I love Israel and Jewish people but (for me) it would be a form of antisemitism to lump all Jewish persons in a monolithic group as tho they are all in agreement- _________________ Fletcher
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2024/1/22 17:18 | Profile |
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| Re: | | Why would such a soul searing emotional message from a dear saint in Israel cause such a question and comments to rise in you? _________________ David Winter
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2024/1/22 17:22 | Profile |
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| Re: soul searing | | A host of reasons … _________________ Fletcher
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2024/1/22 17:24 | Profile |
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| Re: | | Well I'm not interested in that host. All I wanted was to share the heart and emotions of someone presently laboring in Israel. _________________ David Winter
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2024/1/22 17:30 | Profile |
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| Re: | | Hi All, I with docs here on this subject. This antisemitism is unprecedented in recent times. I for one cannot let this slide and everyone else can do what they please. The ignorance around the situation in Israel is hard to fathom except to say that pro palestinians are under a delusion from the devil.The obvious is not obvious to them because they are married to a lie knowingly or unknowingly. The enemy of anything good repeats the same lies over and over and we cant even bother to research them. Lie 1:Genocide Lie 2:Occupation Lie 3:Apartheid Lie 4:Zionism
Genocide:Their is no genocide going on just a country defending themselves.Their is genocide going on by Hamas however Occupation:Their is no occupation of Gaza ,it was ruled by the Eygptians ,before that the British,The Turks and was never independant until the Israeli government gave left it in 1993/2005 in the misguided hope that they would rule themselves. Apartheid:Their is no Apartheid in Israel,about 2 million arabs are full citizens in Israel and take up positions in the IDF,the political assembly and in the judicary.Their is Apartheid in Gaza and other Arab countries who dont allow any Jews to live. Zionism:The most simple definition is Zionism is a movement to recreate a Jewish presence in Israel or that Israel a Jewish state has a right to be in the middle east.Most people believe that they do have a right to exist as a nation in the middle east.Zionism is a good thing.
So despite Israel's failings (like every country that ever was or existed)the fundamental truth is that Israel has a right to exist and has tried everything to exist peacefully and we have not seen this Anti Jewish hatred since 1930s Europe and the leopard doesnt change its spots,urs staff |
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2024/1/22 19:45 | Profile |
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| Re: David | | No offense was intended, seems odd to need to make that disclaimer tho it’s not a problem for me to offer it -
I asked you this because I like your posts/perspective and generally agree with your positions as expressed here on SI. Likewise your posts have personally benefited my faith helping me grow in my understanding of how we are to walk out the life of faith in Christ alone. This is something that I had been researching before 10/7/23 as I asked a couple of times here on SI for help with witnessing to Jewish/Israeli persons due to my Jewish Israeli friends that I hope to be an effective witness to for Christ -
And of course you are free to post things that are near your heart, even encouraged to,… tho this is a public forum and as such it is also equally within the normal usage of said forum to inquire regarding the disposition of the poster, no?
Again it is not my intention to frustrate you so much as to arrive at a better understanding of how a brother in Christ makes sense of all this as a Christian-
_________________ Fletcher
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2024/1/22 21:01 | Profile |
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| Re: Staff | | Thank you for your heartfelt response with what has to be me, since there is no one else that has posted on this thread - other than the OP.
Would you be willing to field the original question I had asked David ?
ftr, I’ve asked this of others and am trying to compile an aggregate of the replies, ultimately to come to an understanding of how what is happening, is happening…. if that makes sense- _________________ Fletcher
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