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Lisa

Dear Sister Lysa, I had thought he meant a prayer app that lets brethren check in for virtual meetings from different locations at the same time - but yes I may have missed it like that. But coming to think of this, I admittedly would at this stage appreciate to have access to this as I so believe that leaving out fervent prayer in our outreach attempts should be unspeakable fooliness.

On a side note, must we not altogether loath resources that are offered by the Catholic (amonst other unworthy sources) seeing they are thus in apostasy? Must we not fear that the funds used to fund the app development may have been carelessly earned - as the members thereof are not expect to know how to choose Christian ethical careers? Or am I confusing things perhaps?

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Kervin

Was about to add the following as a P.S but realised it deserves to be added as a new comment (epsecially after finding that the Hallow app is free but with in-app purchases - therefore technically not free).

I meant to add that such carefulness should only apply to free resources - made available at the courtesy of the provider (likely to be funded by offerings as ministry support by Catholic members).

Resources with in-apps are not essentially free and therefore excluded from the carefulness I meant to draw attentions to. And yes if it can work for evangelical Christians, then we are free to procure and use.

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Kervin

by KervinM on 2024/1/25 2:18:08

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Lisa

I admittedly have not studied what they have to offer in depth but I hear of assertions such as Mary being a co-redeemer with Christ. Shall we not seek to deassociate with such errors? If I call myself a Catholic, then I implicitly assert to this amongs other apostate assertions - not so?

And the only way to put an end to the said inferrence (if I do not consent therewith) is to terminate my associateions with the denomination.

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Kervin

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Lisa

To my knowledge sister, there are two main branches of interest to this topic. The Catholic and the Protestants. Protestents are all non-Catholic denominations (excluding Orthodox who says they existed before the Catholics I think).

You could try to find out why it was necessary for those who broke away from the Catholic (called Protestants) and see if you are still comfortable esteeming them (Catholics) thus. Yes there exist many denominations within Protestantism today but that is a different subject on its own and needs to be looked at separately.

So in my humble understanding, there are minor issues that could be borne with - but again there are major issues that needs to be either corrected or de-association ensue. The aim is not to argue but to let iron shappens iron for Christ's glory and not man's

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Kervin

"It is noteworthy that the apostles did not appoint more apostles to replace them after Pentecost where they became the “foundation” of the Church, Christ being the chief cornerstone (Eph,. 2:20). Rather, they appointed “elders in every church” (Acts 14:23). Irenaeus himself speaks of “the disciples of the apostles” as “presbyters” (elders) (Against Heresies 5.35.2). He wrote: “… we refer them [heretics] to that tradition which originates from the apostles, and which is preserved by means of the successions of presbyters in the Churches” (AH 3.2.2).

Irenaeus (130-200) seemed to believe that each church has a single Bishop over it, speaking of Polycarp as “bishop of Smyrna” (cf. AH 3.3.4) and a line of bishops in Rome beginning with Linus (AH 3.3.3). However, this is in contrast to the New Testament which is clear that every local church had its own “bishops and deacons” (cf. Phil. 1:1; Acts 14:13).[3] And it was they whose leadership was to be followed by their congregations (Heb. 13:7, 17, 24), not any ecclesiastical authority in Rome. For Christ, the Chief Shepherd, was the invisible Head of the visible church. For He walked among them and rebuked them for not recognizing His Headship (cf. Rev. 1-3).[4]

The beginning of false doctrine, even on the primacy of the episcopacy, was nearly a century before this time. John the apostle spoke of it in his third epistle when he warned: “I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to have the preeminence among them, does not receive us” (3Jn. 9)."

Input greatly appreciated, sister brendaM. We all may wish to seat back and have a smooth Chrisian sail. However when you take a clearer look inside the hood of spiritual affairs, you soon realise that the devil walketh about as a roaring lion - seeking whom he may devour. He does this in one of a great many ways. Of whom we should not be ignorant. Thus I do still advise that you try to study Catholic criticisms further and see if they shall remain thus commended in your heart, sister Lysa.

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Kervin