Good luck with that.

_________________
Todd

"The priority of the operation is to protect Jerusalem and the Al-Aqsa Mosque to stop the plans of the Zionist occupation that aim to Judaize them and to crush all the plans of the Zionist regime to build their alleged Third Temple of Solomon on the ruins of the first mosque for Muslims Al- Aqsa or near it."

_________________
David Winter

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/07/met-increases-patrols-in-london-after-reports-of-israel-attack-celebrations

"Make no mistake, this is a terrifying time for Jews all around the world" -ibid

The church needs to be the church it was saved to be towards Israel, now more than ever; and this cultural charismatic nonsense we allow to pass under the false sense of "grace" towards "brethren who are different then us" is the exact sort of sentimentality and soulish debauchery that will be swept away with the strength of Israel, except unlike Israel, there will be no resurrection of dry bones for an apostate church.

//"The priority of the operation is to protect Jerusalem and the Al-Aqsa Mosque to stop the plans of the Zionist occupation that aim to Judaize them and to crush all the plans of the Zionist regime to build their alleged Third Temple of Solomon on the ruins of the first mosque for Muslims Al- Aqsa or near it."//

I certainly don’t agree with anything Hamas does but how can any Christian want another temple rebuilt? Jesus wanted the temple torn down and in fact saw to it.

_________________
Todd

Hi TMK,
Whether Jesus wanted the temple to be torn down is not mentioned ,he was just stating fact and wasnt commenting on what he wanted at all.

Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Your Qoute
Jesus wanted the temple torn down and in fact saw to it

urs staff

Psalm 83: 1-5, 13-18
Prayer to Frustrate Conspiracy Against Israel
A Song. A Psalm of Asaph.
1Do not keep silent, O God!
Do not hold Your peace,
And do not be still, O God!
2For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
And those who hate You have lifted up their head.
3They have taken crafty counsel against Your people,
And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.
4They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,
That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.”
5For they have consulted together with one consent;
They form a confederacy against You:

13O my God, make them like the whirling dust,
Like the chaff before the wind!
14As the fire burns the woods,
And as the flame sets the mountains on fire,
15So pursue them with Your tempest,
And frighten them with Your storm.
16Fill their faces with shame,
That they may seek Your name, O Lord.
17Let them be confounded and dismayed forever;
Yes, let them be put to shame and perish,
18That they may know that You, whose name alone is the Lord,
Are the Most High over all the earth.

_________________
Mike

Staff-

Jesus came in Judgment on Jerusalem in 70 AD, just like God came against Jerusalem via Assyrians and Babylon.

The only temple God wants is the body of Christ.

_________________
Todd

Please listen to the message by Lance Lambert “The Battle Over Israel”. You will see God’s purpose for Israel and the Church, and why Satan is working overtime to destroy the nation of Israel.

The Battle Over Israel - Lance Lambert

https://youtu.be/M9Oz-hhr0u4?si=C7Uw7WFxsHnUwFvI

_________________
Mike

I listened to part of Lance Lambert's sermon on the Battle over Israel. I will listen to the rest. I did stop to post this observation and question. First, he likens the suffering of the Jews to the suffering of Christians and concludes since Christian suffering is not about judgement then how can Jewish suffering be about judgment. What seems lacking in his analysis is that the suffering that God brings into two different lives can be the same but have two motives and two different desired or intended results. God brings some suffering in as a judgment for defiance and rebellion. The same suffering can be brought into a Christian's life though and it is designed specifically to correct or train in righteousness. Same suffering like persecution or hate of others. Thus, it is entirely not shocking that God could punish the Jews in judgemnt for rejecting Jesus with the persecution by the Romans and the destruction of Jerusalem while at the same time bring about Roman persecution of Christians and bring about Christian maturity and Christian love as the intended testimony and response.

I don't understand Brother Lamber's confusion on this. Additionally, I'm really shocked that Staff would suggest Jesus didn't intend to judge Israel in the destruction of Israel. First, all judgement has been given to the Son. Second, Jesus tells the Jews to repent or they will suffer the same fate as those Jews who had been crushed by the falling of the tower of Siloam and that the Romans would drink their blood as they had others. Just as Jesus warns Christians in Revelation to come out from Babylon or they would suffer the same plagues as Babylon in judgment. Just as Jesus came to Abraham to announce He would destroy Sodom. Jesus is the judge of the whole earth, the living and the dead and the destruction of Jerusalem, as Todd says, is a judgment by Jesus of an apostate Israel who rejected God's son. Jesus said as much in the parable of the Vineyard owner when He clearly says that those who rejected the vineyard owners' son would be destroyed and the vineyard would be given to the gentiles.

My question is this, how do others see the destruction of Jerusalem as coming from Jesus (through the Romans) ? Is this some kind of eschatology trigger or something? Im really confused if anyone sees it as some random event. Especially as Jesus says he came preaching in the manner of Jonah who preached of coming judgement ( 40 days and maybe a coincidence, Jerusalem 40 years).

_________________
Robert

"Unfortunately these types of events have been fairly steady over the years."
"It’s not a matter of if but when this was going to go hot,…"

We should try and see the bigger picture in all this.
We can't just come to conclusions based on yesterday's events and News reports.

The great commission of the church hasn't changed
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you..

Markus