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 Re: #9 And by knowledge the rooms are filled with all precious and pleasant riches_4

God’s Love is greatest. If we do not have God’s Love we are nothing (1 Cor. 13)

“God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. “ (John 4:16 NASB)

“Not to us, O LORD, not to us, But to Your name give glory Because of Your lovingkindness, because of Your truth.” (Psalm 115:1 NASB)


Here is love, vast as the ocean,
Lovingkindness as the flood,
When the Prince of Life, our Ransom,
Shed for us His precious blood.
Who His love will not remember?
Who can cease to sing His praise?
He can never be forgotten,
Throughout Heav’n’s eternal days.

On the mount of crucifixion,
Fountains opened deep and wide;
Through the floodgates of God’s mercy
Flowed a vast and gracious tide.
Grace and love, like mighty rivers,
Poured incessant from above,
And Heav’n’s peace and perfect justice
Kissed a guilty world in love.

Let me all Thy love accepting,
Love Thee, ever all my days;
Let me seek Thy kingdom only
And my life be to Thy praise;
Thou alone shalt be my glory,
Nothing in the world I see.
Thou hast cleansed and sanctified me,
Thou Thyself hast set me free.

In Thy truth Thou dost direct me
By Thy Spirit through Thy Word;
And Thy grace my need is meeting,
As I trust in Thee, my Lord.
Of Thy fullness Thou art pouring
Thy great love and power on me,
Without measure, full and boundless,
Drawing out my heart to Thee.


 2016/7/17 10:02Profile

 Re: #8 “I AM in you” – Received in union with Christ _ 15

Hello Jade,

Welcome to the forum. I have been reading and following your posts. They are very uplifting and encouraging. Thank you.

I very much liked this statement and your testimonies of God's faithfulness even when you did not seem to have faith. That was a very important lesson you learned and a lesson everyone in Christ needs to learn.

So today, I see Jesus only. I don’t focus on my weak faith anymore. But I hold on to the Lord’s great faithfulness to His unchanging Word.

 2016/7/17 10:15

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 Thank you, Julius!

“Peace to the brethren, and love, with faith, from God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ!
The grace with all those loving our Lord Jesus Christ -- undecayingly! Amen.”
(Eph. 6:23-24 YLT)


 2016/7/17 22:29Profile

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  #9 And by knowledge the rooms are filled with all precious and pleasant riches_5


“To the messenger of the Ephesian assembly write: These things saith he who is holding the seven stars in his right hand, who is walking in the midst of the seven lamp-stands -- the golden:
I have known thy works, and thy labour, and thy endurance, and that thou art not able to bear evil ones, and that thou hast tried those saying themselves to be apostles and are not, and hast found them liars,
and thou didst bear, and hast endurance, and because of my name hast toiled, and hast not been weary.
`But I have against thee: That thy first love thou didst leave!
remember, then, whence thou hast fallen, and reform, and the first works do; and if not, I come to thee quickly, and will remove thy lamp-stand from its place -- if thou mayest not reform;
but this thou hast, that thou dost hate the works of the Nicolaitans, that I also hate.
He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: To him who is overcoming -- I will give to him to eat of the tree of life that is in the midst of the paradise of God”
(Revelation 2:1-7, Young’s Literal Translation)

The church in Ephesus seemed praiseworthy in many things. They were wholeheartedly serving the Lord. They were dedicated, worked very hard and did many things. They patiently endured all things and remained steadfast and unwavering through difficulties and hardships. Also, they did not tolerate evil men, men who scoffed at the righteousness of God. They stood for the infallibility of God’s Word, searched the Scriptures for truth, tested the messages of other preachers and rejected all falsehood. They endured persecutions and tirelessly laboured for the Lord Jesus’ Name.

Yet for all these there was no true Light in their lampstand and the Lord was coming to remove it out of its place (Rev. 2:5).

“In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.” (John 1:4 NASB)

For all the sincere and noteworthy endeavour of the church in Ephesus, the life of Christ was not shining out through them. Christ was not living in them.

And the reason was that they had left their “first love” (Rev. 2:4).

Such dedication and perseverance and toil most certainly must have been motivated by a deep and strong love for the Lord. How could they be faulted? But it was a love that could not produce the light the Lord was looking for in their lampstand. The love that is unable to bear good fruits for the Lord is “human” love, the love that flows out of “self”, the love that is of “flesh”. All our righteous deeds are like a “filthy garment” (Isa. 64:6) or “rubbish” as Paul said (Phil. 3:8).

All our springs must be in God. (Ps. 87:7 (KJV), 36:9)

“We love, because He first loved us.” (1 John 4:19)

“First” (Strong’s #4413, used in both Rev. 2:4 & 1 John 4:19) is that which is foremost (in time, place, order or importance).

First love MUST be GOD’S Love, not our own human love. God’s Love must be the beginning, must come first, must be the most important, must be the chief. Only the Love of Christ which is the Love of God is of surpassing value (Eph. 3:19; Phil. 3:8).

Our own striving to love God will fail. Our earnest desire, “All that the Lord requires of us we will do!” will be fruitless. It is only by acknowledging that all that the Lord requires of us we cannot do and let God's Love fill us and mightily work in us that all of God’s Will will done in us by grace through faith.

What great things God’s Love does for us!

It is God’s Great Love that gives His only begotten Son to us. (John 3:16)

It is through God’s Great Love that we are children of God. (1 John 3:1; Eph. 1:4-5).

It is “God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.” (Eph. 2:4-7 NASB)

“Then Christ will make his home in your hearts as you trust in him. Your roots will grow down into God's love and keep you strong. And may you have the power to understand, as all God's people should, how wide, how long, how high, and how deep his love is. May you experience the love of Christ, though it is too great to understand fully. Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God.” (Eph. 3:17-19 NLT)

And this is good news of great joy: We do not have to labour for God’s Love. It is a gift from God to us.

The “love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.” (Rom. 5:5 NASB)

God’s Love lifts us to heavenly heights, renews our hearts to desire to do all things pleasing to God and mightily enables us to do so. When we are filled with God’s Love, we will be able to supernaturally love God and do His commands and love others as Christ loves us (Eph. 4,5). And God’s Great Love in us and through us will bestow joy, peace, life and blessings on the ones loved.

The church in Ephesus was also admonished to return to the first (Strong’s #4413) works (Rev. 2:5). This must be God first working in us by His love (Eph. 2:8-10). We must only work as God works in us, as the Lord Jesus did when He was on earth in the flesh.

“Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.” (John 5:19 NASB)

“… I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.” (John 8:28 NASB)

“Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father” (John 10:32 NASB)

“For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.” (John 12:49 NASB)

Because of the Lord Jesus’ absolute surrender to His Father to work in Him and through Him, what a totally sinless life He lived! He was able to say, “… for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me” (John 14:30). What power He had! What mighty works and miracles He did! And what compassion He showed!

Our own works are “rubbish” but we will live and work mightily when Christ is living in us and working mightily through us.

The name of the Lord is a strong tower and the righteous runs into it and is safe (Prov. 18:10). To the church in Ephesus, the Lord Jesus says:


“The One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands.“ (Rev. 2:1 NASB)

The Lord Jesus Himself must be the One holding us, sustaining us, empowering us. The Lord Jesus Himself must be with us, in us.

The church in Ephesus needed to eat again from the tree of life (Rev. 2:7). They needed to live and work, not by their own power and might but by the Holy Spirit (Zech. 4:6). For the tree of life is the tree that grows by the side of the river of the water of life (Rev. 22:1-2) and he who believes in Christ “as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.' But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive” (John 7:38-39 NASB). Only by the Holy Spirit can we have the true power to live and work for the Lord (Acts 1:8). Only the Holy Spirit can make us know Christ as our life and sanctification as a living reality in us (John 16:14-15 NASB).

“But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.” (Titus 3:4-7 NASB)

God is Love! (1 John 4:16). If we do not have God’s Love, we are nothing (1 Cor. 13). God’s Love is the greatest treasure to have in us.


 2016/7/21 1:02Profile

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 #9 And by knowledge the rooms are filled with all precious and pleasant riches_6


The love of God is greater far
Than tongue or pen can ever tell;
It goes beyond the highest star,
And reaches to the lowest hell;
The guilty pair, bowed down with care,
God gave His Son to win;
His erring child He reconciled,
And pardoned from his sin.

O love of God, how rich and pure!
How measureless and strong!
It shall forevermore endure
The saints’ and angels’ song.

When years of time shall pass away,
And earthly thrones and kingdoms fall,
When men, who here refuse to pray,
On rocks and hills and mountains call,
God’s love so sure, shall still endure,
All measureless and strong;
Redeeming grace to Adam’s race—
The saints’ and angels’ song.

Could we with ink the ocean fill,
And were the skies of parchment made,
Were every stalk on earth a quill,
And every man a scribe by trade,
To write the love of God above,
Would drain the ocean dry.
Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
Though stretched from sky to sky.


 2016/7/21 9:27Profile

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 Re: #10 Through one man’s disobedience all have sinned and all die_1

At the very beginning of creation, God’s eternal command for the obedience that gives LIFE was laid down:

“The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” (Gen. 2:8-9 NASB)

“Then the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. The LORD God commanded the man, saying, ‘From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; BUT FROM THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL YOU SHALL NOT EAT, FOR IN THE DAY THAT YOU EAT FROM IT YOU WILL SURELY DIE.’” (Gen. 2:15-17 NASB, caps mine)

This is a FACT: When man eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he dies.

Not, as some say, God testing man to see if man will obey Him or not.


 2016/9/6 9:56Profile

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 #10 Through one man’s disobedience all have sinned and all die_2


“So also it has been written: ‘The first man Adam became into a living soul; the last Adam into a life-giving spirit.’” (1 Cor.15:45 Berean Literal Bible)

“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Gen. 2:7 KJV)


 2016/9/13 2:03Profile

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 Re: #10 Through one man’s disobedience all have sinned and all die_2

What happens when we believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and are saved? His Spirit is birthed in us. What happened when Adam chose not to obey God and believe Satan. The spirit of Satan became Adams spirit, now serving Satan.

"You are of your Father the devil" is very strong that Satan is the Ruler over the power of the air on this earth. "prince"

Satan still rules over those that don't believe Who Jesus Christ is, it is the "spirit of the devil your father" that rules the person.

So Adam chose the spirit that would be in him. Now if we choose Christ, it is His Spirit that is in us plus The Holy Spirit promise of Christ being in us also, and yet the Father and the Son now make their abode with us.

Our spirit and soul are closely knit together in us but the spirit must come from spirit. What is flesh is living soulful air breathing with a soulful mind will and emotions
what is spirit is spirit now ruling over body and soul that will be in the Fathers house as body, soul/mind and Spirit of Christ who is now our eternal life and gives us sonship with His and our Father. He that chooses Jesus Christ will live by His Spirit that is in us.

OR: Isaiah 65:12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

In Christ: Phillip


 2016/9/13 6:38Profile

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Phillip, thank you. Good contribution!


 2016/9/13 19:12Profile

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 Re: #10 Through one man’s disobedience all have sinned and all die_3


“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Gen. 2:7 KJV)

The Hebrew word translated “living” in the KJV is “chay” (Strongs# 2416) and the Hebrew word translated “soul” in the KJV is “nephesh” (Strongs# 5315).

NASB translates these 2 words as “living being” while the Young’s Literal Translation translates them as “living creature”.

So man became a “living soul” or “living being” or “living creature”.

This living being that is man has two constituent parts:

FIRSTLY, he is formed of the “dust of the ground”.

Man’s physical body is made up of 28 different atomic elements that can be found in the stars and the earth’s crust. Of these 28 elements, 6 elements viz. oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium and phosphorus, constitute about 99% of the physical human body. About 0.85% of the body is made up of another 5 elements viz. potassium, sulphur, sodium, chlorine and magnesium. The rest of the body contains small amounts of the elements copper, zinc, selenium, molybdenum, fluorine, manganese, cobalt and iron, and, trace amounts of lithium, strontium, aluminium, silicon, lead, vanadium, arsenic and bromine.

Man’s physical body is wonderfully made. He is made out of trillions of cells. Cells are building blocks of the body just like bricks are the building blocks of a brick house. Cells are also amazing nanomachines that are able to carry out all of the body’s extremely complex life–giving work. Different cells are assembled together and built up to form different tissues which are fashioned into different organs. There are about 78 organs in the human body each designed to perform specialised functions for the physical life. Some of these organs are the brain, the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, the skin, skeletal muscles, bones, the heart, the stomach, the liver and the lungs.

Man’s physical body is a complete and amazing life system of its own. But only God has life and God is the Giver of all life, so,

SECONDLY, God breathed into man’s nostrils the vital “breath of life”

And man became a LIVING BEING! (or, living creature; or, living soul).

(Thought: Man does not have a “soul”. He IS the living soul.)


 2016/9/23 3:47Profile

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