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TMK
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I am enjoying the discussion, but perhaps the motive of the discussion has been lost due to all the different threads. Obviously there have been accusations (false I might add) of ulterior motives.

I for one am fine with discussion for the sake of discussion- particularly topics that interest me.

But perhaps it might be helpful to explain 1) why the proper view of Israel is important; 2) what are the consequences of being wrong; 3) are the consequences of being wrong dire.

Personally I put very little importance on eschatology. It is interesting but I used to be much more interested when I was dispensational because I liked to make current events fit. Since I moved from that camp, I really place little importance on it. My motto is just Be Ready.

So I am curious why you think a particular view of Israel matters in the long run.


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Todd

 2015/11/3 15:20Profile









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I absolutely agree that we should be promoting love on both sides, FOR BOTH SIDES. There is much pain and loss that everyone has encountered and people are hurting.

http://www.theparentscircle.org/Content.aspx?ID=60

Here is a very touching film about Arab and Jewish parents who have lost family members, coming together to understand and reconcile with each other. Jesus is not even in the mix and they are coming together in love. How much more should the Church of Jesus Christ being sowing seeds of love over there instead of taking sides?

http://www.theparentscircle.org/Article.aspx?ID=1259

I would like to see the Church of Jesus Christ stop taking sides in this conflict and take the side of Jesus.

 2015/11/3 15:23
roadsign
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I would like to see the Church of Jesus Christ stop taking sides in this conflict and take the side of Jesus.


I suspect every contributor is sincerely trying to take the side of Jesus. Actually, I don't wish to hijack this thread title. I just hope to see theological perspectives of Israel become submitted it to the priority teachings of scripture. Surely, if we set Israel (as well as ourselves) within that framework, we will move towards eschatological realizations.

So often the teachings on forgiveness get eclipsed by other ideologies re Israel. The terrible problems persist- and no one thinks about it - or cares. Doesn't seem godly to me.


"Thy Kingdom Come!"

Diane


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Diane

 2015/11/3 16:10Profile
roadsign
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Arab and Jewish parents who have lost family members, coming together to understand and reconcile ...



Isn't this what the people crave so badly! They do not know the way of peace.

Diane


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Diane

 2015/11/3 16:19Profile
docs
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 For Julius

I think we can, at least with you, ProudPapa, docs, roadsign, TMK and JFW. Crusader also has been civil and makrothumia actually posted one time and I think everyone missed his post, which was actually a good post.

Doc: I think Heydave should also be included in any future conversations or discussions.


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David Winter

 2015/11/3 18:45Profile









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It's what we all want, Diane.

I think we can all agree that a theology that favors one group of people to the detriment of another group is not a theology anyone here wants to embrace.
http://littleguyintheeye.com/biblical-studies/end-times/zionism/

 2015/11/3 18:49









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Yes we all want to keep bashing God's chosen people Israel in a civil and polite manner don't we?
A soft kill , so silky smooth and so approachable. Yes you got it Juli

 2015/11/3 18:54
Oracio
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 Re: For Julius

docs wrote: For Julius

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I think we can, at least with you, ProudPapa, docs, roadsign, TMK and JFW. Crusader also has been civil and makrothumia actually posted one time and I think everyone missed his post, which was actually a good post.

Doc: I think Heydave should also be included in any future conversations or discussions.


Well, I never. Fine then, I see how it is. Jk :-). I know I still need to work on my “calm civility” when it comes to these types of topics. I think I was doing fairly well until we started being labeled unsaved, satanic, Jew-hating anti-Christs. It’s all good though, Lord bless.


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Oracio

 2015/11/3 18:55Profile









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by docs on 2015/11/3 18:45:10

I think we can, at least with you, ProudPapa, docs, roadsign, TMK and JFW. Crusader also has been civil and makrothumia actually posted one time and I think everyone missed his post, which was actually a good post.

Doc: I think Heydave should also be included in any future conversations or discussions.



Yep! It wasn't my intention to exclude Dave.

But, you know, is there really any point anymore?

As Christians, we are peacemakers, preaching a Gospel of reconciliation, asked by our Lord to love our enemies, walking as He walked. We are to forgive from our hearts. I know, in my heart I do not embrace a theology that could anyway, whatsoever bring harm to other men. Maybe, it's best we all start there and check our respective beliefs. Then, and only then might it be edifying to talk about the Scriptures.

 2015/11/3 18:58









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Jesus Christ is LORD

 2015/11/3 19:11





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