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I do fully understand, Oracio. I agree it is definitely a serious error, too. Being corrected and even alerted to error does not offend me. I am actually thankful for it.

 2015/11/3 14:56
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Brother Julius, this thought also came to mind. Let's say someone here were to post a teaching by let's say for example Joel Osteen and say they agree with that particular teaching in some respects. It would be hard for many of us to take seriously anything coming from Osteen. We wouldn't even want to give him the time of day. Hope you understand that's how I feel regarding anyone who holds to Full Preterism, as I see it to be that serious of an error.


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An attack of the gospel

First Timothy 1:4 says these false teachers "minister questions rather than godly edifying which is in faith." They provide speculations instead of truth. They continually stir up useless questions, and that creates confusion. The Greek word translated "edifying" (oikonomia), means "stewardship," "administration," or "dispensation." It refers to a modus operandi--a means of operation. Since it is connected with theos, the Greek word translated "God," it refers to the plan of God. Through their questions these false teachers strike a blow at the gospel of saving faith. Therefore, it is likely they were propagating a system of works righteousness or legalism.

 2015/11/3 14:46









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Let me just say that I apologize to everyone on SI if I said anything that offended any of you.

Furthermore, please feel free to take a vote whether you would like me to be banned or not and publish the results for Greg. I will accept the wisdom of the Church.

 2015/11/3 14:35









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Paul as led by the Holy Sprit said

Galatians 5:12
I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!

(Talking about those who promote false religion)

 2015/11/3 14:32









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Brown didn't even call Preston a heretic or disparage him in any way (and he probably doesn't agree with his eschatology) as he focused on the hermeneutics of Israel and the Church. I wouldn't even want to talk about what a Mormon believes, so I respect your view and thanks for telling me about it in a brotherly way.

If you and the others I mentioned think it is impossible in this current atmosphere to talk about the hermeneutics regarding Israel and the Church, I am ok with that. I don't care about what the bullies say, but I do care about what the "bullied", say. So, if you and the others think we should "hang it up", then let's do it.

 2015/11/3 14:26
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Thanks Julius. I guess my concern is for heretical perspectives to be promoted here, views which would be on the same level of heresy as JWs, Mormons and others. At some point I think the mods have to draw a line and not allow certain heresies to have a platform here. That's just what I've observed here over the years anyway. I appreciate that you had no clue that he was a Full Preterist.

But I agree with your point about having civil discussions despite strong disagreements, even when it comes to orthodox vs unorthodox views.


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 2015/11/3 14:24Profile









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by Oracio on 2015/11/3 13:55:14

Julius, did you know that Preston was a Full Preterist before listening to this debate?



No, absolutely not! I never heard of him before.

So, do you think we can conduct our own conversation, at least in the same kind-hearted spirit that Brown and Preston did?

I think we can, at least with you, ProudPapa, docs, roadsign, TMK and JFW. Crusader also has been civil and makrothumia actually posted one time and I think everyone missed his post, which was actually a good post.

 2015/11/3 14:09
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proudpapa wrote:

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I can not download the youtube so I do not know if you where reffering to Tim Conway the comedian if so he is different from Tim Conway the preacher,

Tim Conway the preacher is kind of running in the same circle as Paul Washer, John Piper etc.

I am able to get the MP3 thank you Oracio


Yes, I was referring to the preacher not the comedian lol. I am sorry to hear that you cannot download the mp3, I wish they did transcripts.


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 2015/11/3 13:58Profile
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Julius, did you know that Preston was a Full Preterist before listening to this debate?


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