Now, we are told that the lack of women having their "head's covered" explains why the Lord isn't communicating new spiritual revelations with us today.

Dear Brothers and Sisters... not to be comical but... in light of what has been written... should we all conclude... and sing:

"There is power, power, wonder working power in the cloth... on her head"?

Maybe so???

Quote: Maybe that is worth another thread.

Please do..

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Colin Murray

Carmine,

It is NOT about males subjugatating women to men but about being obedient to God. It is all about submitting to the authority that belongs to God. When one is obedient to Him we will experience blessings. In obedience we are submitting to authority above us ONLY in ways that do not violate God's express command. (Peter says we ought to obey God rather then men.)

I have heard of husbands who wished their wives to dress immodestly because they want to show off to other men what female he snagged to bed with him. No godly woman will ever submit to that. Granted this is an extreme situation but the principle is the same. We follow God FIRST and in following we serve - if we are married there will be a husband and children; if you work in the marketplace it is to your boss; if you are driving on the road it is traffic laws. There are no situations where one finds herself/himself that someone is not called to submit to another and we do it as Jesus would.

Submission is a dirty word in popular culture but we do not follow popular culture, do we?

Hope this makes sense.

Blessings.

Sandra

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Sandra Miller

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Lisa

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Lisa

Ginnyrose

Thank you for your response . My wife and I attended a brethren church in
Toronto for the last 12 years, Unfortunately quite a number of the men in leadership had/have quite a problem with women, They are being treated as either inferior or objects of lust it seems. And most of them wore head coverings. Back to the pentecostals we go!

it has been mentioned several times that this thread is for discussion for those who want to follow or ask questions about this topic and i don't have an issue with that. i do have issue with the condemnation and judging that is happening in this thread by those who do cover towards those who do not. so far woman who do not cover have been told they are not following God, not submitting to their husbands, not obeying God, they have been call feminists and that the reason prayer is not happening in this country is because woman will not cover their heads???

i have never felt so judged by any other thread since coming to SI as I have in this one.

rdg

It is true that head coverings will not be a ticket to heaven, neither will it make one holy. All one is asked to do is to be obedient. It is a symbol for a deeper principle. Yet it has a literal benefit because it effects the angels. I treasure the ministry of these Beings...

Carmine, as long as you look at others and their inconsistencies in their walk with the LORD one would never come to Him...we are not called to do that. It is like Jesus told Peter, "what is that to thee, follow thou me." Instead of arguing about whether one should wear it why don't you just say, "I do not want to wear it, so there!" and be done with it. Why do you bother to debate it?

Sandra

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Sandra Miller

RDG,

I want to encourage you to rest in the Lord and his peace with the convictions that he has given to you. Don't let anyone rob you of the peace you have in Jesus.

I want you to notice a quote from Ginnyrose from her earlier post.


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I have read very few of the postings on this thread because there seems to be no new objection under the sun to this teaching. This means I weary of it.

To those who are new, I wear a head covering at all waking hours. I was taught it from childhood but when I became an adult I wrestled with the issue: I DID NOT want to wear it - I was tired of looking different - I wanted to fit in with the public. And there are a lot of other Christian women out there not wearing it so why do I have to????

I shared this struggle with others who prayed for me and before too long the pressure was off.
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Notice the struggle she went through because it was forced upon her from childhood. When she got older she was very unhappy with it and how it made her feel.

It seems that she never came to the conclusion on her own of wearing a head cloth in her own personal relationship to the Lord. She was being forced from those who practice it even beyond what the scripture teaches.

She shared the struggle with others who prayed for her. She had the choice to either accept the head cloth so she would be accepted by those of her family that she has only really known since childhood or reject it and not be accepted.

This is a cultural practice that many do to be accepted. They either honestly believe that this is the only way that the Lord will truly accept them or they do it so others will accept them because they are tired of not being accepted. This practice puts many in the bondage of legalism because they depend on this head cloth as their connection to God and their acceptance of those who are caught up in this legalism.

The bible plainly teaches that we are to have confidence to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus. That we are to draw near with a true heart by the one and only sacrifice of Jesus.

It is sad that so many well meaning Christians get caught up into legalism trying to please the Lord. God has always said that obedience was always better than any outward sacrifice. People become legalistic over so many things in the bible. They become legalistic over the form of baptism, the practice of foot washing, beards or no beards, and the wearing of certain types of clothing. The list goes on and on. They think that if somehow they can find the right formula God will really bless and use them. They think that if they don't do everything just exactly like the saints in the bible in every detail then they are not being obedient.

Many miss out on how to be truly obedient...that it is in being led by the Spirit and not the letter of the Law.

Also, the head cloth that the women wear today in those type of churches is not the veil Paul was talking about. This means that they are not wearing the same type of head covering they wore back then. Really the women who use their hair as a covering are the ones who are correctly following scripture as Paul stated in the bible. He says plainly that "her hair is given her for a covering". This cannot be disputed because it is clear in the scriptures. There is not any scripture that says that a head cloth can be used as a covering.

Blessings!