A woman wearing a head covering (in our culture) would actually draw MORE attention to themselves. In Corinth in Paul's day, a woman NOT wearing a covering would draw more attention to herself.

In Israel in Paul's day it was not a disgrace for a man to have long hair(nazirite vow, eg). And in Israel men covered their heads in prayer (prayer shawls) not women.

This is so obviously cultural. Paul wished for the Corinthian women to uphold the customs of respectable women in their culture which were generally in conformity to the principle of patriarchy. He does not give many details about the custom because these were obvious to his readers. The lack of details makes it almost impossible to know how the practice should be duplicated. This dearth of details alone is evidence that Paul did not intend this as a command for all Christians everywhere and forever.

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Hi Chris,

"Angel" can properly be translated "messenger." Just a thought.

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It would seem that the burden is on those who believe that a literal material head covering is required to prove that is what the text means. The text, read plainly never states this. It states a woman's HEAD must be covered and vs 15 says specifically that the hair is the covering.

I think that is part of the resistance to this, namely that a material type of cloth covering or veil is being imported into the text. Both sides do this, but the anti side says it was cultural. But first it must be established that this is what the text means. Once again it never actually says that a woman must cover her hair. It says she must cover her head.

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I find it odd that someone would be concerned with drawing attention to themself by wearing a head covering in our culture. People walk the streets with pink or purple hair, piercings and tattoos all over their faces and bodies and it is common for people to prance around wearing next to no clothing, yet people in this forum are concerned it will draw attention to someone to wear a head covering. How ridiculous!

Some will say it is a culture issue, it is NOT a culture issue; t is God’s word. How easy it is to ignore things that may be “uncomfortable” and brush it off as a “cultural issue”. Nice try! This is a New Testament issue. We are living under the New Testament.

Christians are not supposed to have culture dictate to us how we should live; it should be God’s Word. The “Christians” who allow the culture to tell them how to live are referred to as “carnal Christian”.

Those who think head covering is a cultural issue please let us know the other things in the Bible (specifically New Testament passages) that we should ignore. In fact why don’t you rewrite the New Testament and either editing out the things that make you uncomfortable, I mean that are “cultural” or put some notes in the text to tell us what we should believe and practice or not, (because Paul and the Holy Spirit forgot to).

Based on the thinking of many of the people on these forums, if the culture accepts an adult marrying a child; we should accept it because the Church should get it’s guidance from culture and disregard God’s Word. So the Church needs to accept abortion, same sex marriage, public nudity, and general ungodly behavior; they are all accepted in our culture.

If the Church was walking in the Spirit we would be dictating to the culture how to dress and behave in society, but instead the Church is allowing the culture to tell us what is acceptable. And we wonder why the world is in the mess we are... It is thinking like that.

I can respect someone who would read the text and choose not to follow the instructions of the text more than I can respect a person who just wipes a portion of God’s Word away by an “it is just a cultural thing” comment.
Be very careful how you “divide” God’s Word, you will answer for it.

Quote: This is so obviously cultural. Paul wished for the Corinthian women to uphold the customs of respectable women in their culture which were generally in conformity to the principle of patriarchy. He does not give many details about the custom because these were obvious to his readers. The lack of details makes it almost impossible to know how the practice should be duplicated. This dearth of details alone is evidence that Paul did not intend this as a command for all Christians everywhere and forever.

Have a read of the 1 Cor 11:2 - Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you.

The Corinthians are encouraged to keep the "traditions" that were delivered to them by Paul. Since a good portion of the following verses will be discussing the head covering. Head covering is one of those "traditions"

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I do not know if anyone shared any imput on the ministry of angels in connection to the wearing of the veiling, but will share what I have been told.

Why scripture does not give us more info on this issue remains a mystery to me unless the LORD considered a mere mention of it sufficent.

Scripture says she will have power on her head...NASB says a "symbol of authority on her head because of the angels." I have asked preachers and others to explain this phrase more fully but they seem to be at loss to do so other then what is written here.

There have been testimonies of ladies who started to wear one who have said they felt more protected now then before; also testimonies of veiled females - dressed modestly who were walking with the LORD - who experienced supernatural protection from evil men; there are stories of people playing with the Ouija board where it failed to work because someone was wearing a veiling but upon its removal it worked. Our retired pastor has several stories he has collected to prove this point. Is this protection limited to veiled females? I do not know that answer so will not venture an opinion on it because I do not know.

Then it mentions praying and prophesying...she will be empowered to do so, like the prophetess in the OT who shared the word of the LORD with others. We have a ministry and are called to faithfulness and need all the supernatural power to fulfill this mission. For many it is simply being a wife and a mom. And...it takes a LOT of supernatural power to be a mom - I know- we had five younguns.

There are males who feel intimidated by a strong veiled woman...dunno why unless he is a man who is not under authority. Males have to submit to authority as well and most find that almost impossible to do so. Females can detect this arrogance in males and will in their mind marginalize them which may be why some will resent the application of this symbol.

It may be of interest to some to know that female satanists also wear a veiling but it is black. This is the reason we females wear white in order to not be confused with them.

In our brotherhood and others similar we would welcome people to attend our worship services but to become a part of the brotherhood we would expect them to uphold the doctrines we consider important. It has been proven that when there is a sharp variation it will bring about conflict in the brotherhood that destroys. Scripture does enjoin a church to be unified. In order for a church to be a brotherhood there has to be agreement before there can be heart-felt fellowship of the spirit. Since we are human we must deal with our humanness on the practical level, too.

I suspect if a couple were to attend a church where the sisters are veiled they would soon leave because they would not feel comfortable or will join the group in its application.

In the end let me say: wearing a veiling is not a sure ticket to heaven, nor is it anything magical apart from a walk with the LORD. I do not know what benefit it is to a person otherwise -suspect it is useless. Nor, does it prevent one from being tempted to sin.

Does this make sense?

Sandra

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