Saints I do not wish death or destruction on anybody. I cited earlier in this thread that it is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. I am only asking that we think about the implications what God nay be saying through the hurricane in Florida. But also he has spoken to us through a drought not seen since the 30's and an economy on the verge of collapse. Yet the church still slumbers.

For those like Jeffmar who raise a warning through a prophetic word. They are excoriated. Yet the love of Christ. And the responsibility of discerning the times compel them to cry a warning out. At least one's blood will not be on their hand
Saints I believe God is sending us a warning through this hurricane in Florida. This is too coincidental to have the Republicans meeting in Tampa. And have a hurricane coming at them. I suppose we could dismiss this as a random event. Were it not for the man they are nomination is a Mormon cultist passing himself off as a man of righteousness.

I do pray for protection for those in the path of the storm. But I also pray we wake up and heed what God is saying in this hour.

Bearmaster.

We'll find out.

Amos 3:6-7

If a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble? If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? Surely the Lord GOD does nothing Unless He reveals His secret counsel To His servants the prophets.

Hi bearmaster,

The world is not confined to America. There is sinfulness, death and destruction all over the world.

Yes, the recent drought has been difficult for some people living in certain areas of America. It may very well be one of the worst droughts since the 1930s. However, people have been dying from famine, disease and pestilence throughout the world for years.

It is interesting that some are quick to suppose that it is prophetic "judgment" when we have a similar drought in America or an outbreak of the West Nile virus...when millions of people in Africa, India and Latin America die from malaria or other diseases each year.

Yes, America (and Americans) have been blessed with quite a bit, and much would be required of the believers living here. However, hurricanes happen EVERY year. As with everything, I pray that God uses whatever means necessary to gather people unto Himself. At the same time, I also pray for God's compassion and mercy on others. After all, it is His kindness that leads us to repentance.

We should be very careful about raising this -- or things like it -- to "prophetic judgment" status. Over the years, I have seen individuals say the same thing about hurricanes, tornadoes, fires, famines, earthquakes, etc... Personally, I am not worried. I will pray for those who live in areas that are affected are might be affected by such things. And, of course, I hope that such things draw men to God in truth.

However, if God wants to bring judgment upon (or get the attention of) Mormons, wouldn't it be better to send an earthquake to Salt Lake City? What about the "judgment" for abortionists, homosexuals and pornographers? There are plenty of terrible, lost men in many nations because this world has largely rejected or ignored Christ.

A few years ago, I knew a "Christian non-resistance" brother who strongly argued for his positions on many issues. We were discussing the issue of "just wars." He argued that we should not harm others because God loves those that "soldiers are trying to kill."

Yet, ironically, he also believed that God's judgment would befall America. When he spoke of it, he did so with almost eager anticipation. I couldn't help but wonder what happened to the compassion that he invoked when it came to "non-resistance." He passed it off as judgment that he would never stand in the way of. I wish that we would care for our neighbors with the same compassion as Moses or, of course, Jesus.

Of course, there IS judgment for such individuals. It might not come on this side of Eternity, yet it is the fitting penalty for sin. However, I believe that our prayer should be for God's mercy...and that he would draw men to Himself.

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Christopher

Yes. I will admit my thinking is flawed. It may be flawed even now. I admit I see through a glass darkly. I am claiming no prophetic revelation or a thus says the Lord.

But I do read the prophetic writings we call the word of God. Those prophetic writing tell us that you cannot shake your fist at God and their be no severe consequences to consider. The Old Testament is filled with Israel making alliances with heathen nations and not trusting God. The outcome was quite severe for Israel. You cannot make a deal with the devil and not expect God to judge.

This is what I see happening to the evangelical church.. She is putting her hope in a Mormon cultist to be her salvation. Because evangelicals despise the current president. They are willing to compromise Jesus Christ to have a Mormon deliver them. A man who comes out of a Satanic cult. And God will judge such actions. If not by the hurricane. Then by another way. But he will judge.

Bearmaster.

Hi Brother Bearmaster,

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Christopher

Remember a few years back when the Luthern church was meeting in MN and voted to ok gay leadership? Remember that a tornado came and ripped off the cross on top of the church?

Interesting...

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Christiaan

I would like to share another perspective of this hurricane.

Unless you have been hiding your head in the sand you are well aware of the prevailing drought that has affected 50% of the crop land in the USA.

There is one benefit that a hurricane can bring to a drought afflicted area and that is rain. Years ago when we farmed and it was dry, we always anticipated hurricanes knowing their rain will bring the needed relief we so desperately needed.

The odd thing of this is that while those of us inland benefited from it, it also inflicted damage to those in the coastal areas. Then those much further inland may receive rains that will result in severe flooding, but we never experienced this that I recall. Still, if you have deep cracks there will be a lot of place for the water to run to before there will be serious runoff. (You see, hurricane rains start with a slow drizzle and build up momentum as time passes.)

Just thought I would share this perspective that there are those who are watching this forecast with hopes of benefiting from it.

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Sandra Miller

Just FYI - I never said this was/wasn't a "prophetic judgement". I spoke up about the readiness to dismiss any such possibilities & only receive "smooth things" as truth. I believe full well that Katrina was (look at what it showed us), that 9/11 was (the Lord allowed the impenetrable USA to be breached), & that a huge massive judgement is coming in the future to the US. I don't "wish it on anyone", but I'm not control either way, so it doesn't matter "what I want", but what is God saying about the matter?
Chris, are you also not going to check out the coming conference on Coming Persecution because you don't want such things and you just want to hope for the best? I'm not at all being sarcastic - I'm truly curious. I also am probably technically considered "non-resistance" (in the same way Jesus was and told us to be - remember, turn the other cheek, give your coat and tunic, go two miles, etc.), but I am not sending judgement on America Chris - God is going to. I'm just sharing what the Spirit of God has made known to me. There are as many "prophet killers" these days (not physically at present) as there are "false prophets", so that argument goes two ways.
Over 50,000 million aborted babies and we don't think judgement is coming specifically to the US? Homosexual marriage? Child milesters and abuses by the millions. Internet porn made on our shores and shipped around the globe? TBN and wolves deceiving the whole world with a false Gospel and judgement coming is speculation? It's coming dear brother. The Lord is delaying, but won't stop it. It's already been decreed. Whether we like it or not matters very little, to be honest

Instead of trying to reason away the unpleasant events that have beset this country. Things such as the draught, the economy, the rise of sin, natural disasters. We must ask ourselves what is God saying to us. Those who are in the prayer closets get a sense that a storm is gathering in the distance. Sorry, that was not a pun.

To try to reason these things away. Or dismiss them as random events. We do so to our own peril. While we pray protection for those in Florida and certainly ask God to bring needed draught relief rains from Isaac. We cannot ignore the fact that many in this country, evangelicals included, are hoping salvation through a Mormon. This is dangerous. Yet there are many Christians who are so displeased with Obama they will give tbeir allegiance to a Mormon cultist.

A thread was started some time ago about the evils of the Roman. Catholic Church. Yet, we are blind to the evils of Mormonism. We are prone in this forum to speak of the evils of the RCC. But few will acknowledge that the Mormon religion is a Satanic cult. Indeed the next nan in the Whe House could very well be a Mormon.

Barrack Obana sat under the preaching of Jeremy Wright. This man may have been the vessel that shaped Obana's ideas . Wright may have been that instrument who made Obama the Lu real humanist her Iska today.

If Obama was shaped by liberal preaching in the church he attended for several years. What do you think Romney us going to bring to the table. I have repeatedly posted this man is dead serious about his faith. This man is the Mormon's Mormon. Were he not seeking political office he could very well be slated to be one of the Mormon apostles. Perhaps the president if the LDS church. The man has held some of the top leadership positions in the LDS church.

I have asked repeatedly do you think this man is going to shed his Mormonism when he is elected President. This man is very committed to his faith. More so than past Presidents were committed to tbeir faith. And the faith if Mit Romney is a Satanic cult. But I fear many are blowing this off.

Saints please wake up. God is warning us what is going to happen. Do not despise those who speak warnings. But go before the Lord and ask if these things be true. Because to ignore God's warnings brings peril.

Your salvation and hope are in Jesus Christ. Not a Mormon cultist.

Bearmaster.

by ginnyrose on 2012/8/25 12:52:25

I would like to share another perspective of this hurricane.

Unless you have been hiding your head in the sand you are well aware of the prevailing drought that has affected 50% of the crop land in the USA.

There is one benefit that a hurricane can bring to a drought afflicted area and that is rain. Years ago when we farmed and it was dry, we always anticipated hurricanes knowing their rain will bring the needed relief we so desperately needed.

The odd thing of this is that while those of us inland benefited from it, it also inflicted damage to those in the coastal areas. Then those much further inland may receive rains that will result in severe flooding, but we never experienced this that I recall. Still, if you have deep cracks there will be a lot of place for the water to run to before there will be serious runoff. (You see, hurricane rains start with a slow drizzle and build up momentum as time passes.)

Just thought I would share this perspective that there are those who are watching this forecast with hopes of benefiting from it.

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I had not thought of this, the rains that come from this storm could actually end up being an answer to prayer for some inland depending on the direction it takes.

Thanks for sharing this perspective.

God bless
mj