hi, there is no doctrine called once saved always saved... the docrtine is the eternal security of the believer.and if you are a beiever in Christ and what He did on the cross for you than you are secure.jimp what sin in a believers life is stronger than the blood of the Lamb? what sin was not conquered on the cross?sin is a major problem on the earth but Jesus is the answer to the problem and if not for grace and mercy coming from the cross there would be no salvation on the earth.jimp

jimp, what you keep espousing is called "easy believism" or UNconditional eternal security and even the Reformed don't teach "living a life-style of sin" and that belief of yours is the last days curse to the Church and I can't believe you sat under Ravenhill and learned that in Bible College.

It's the doctrine of Balaam.

Read these in the chpts they are found in - it's only two of MANY...

1Co 6:9, 10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


Gal 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Peter 1:1-5 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers dispersed through Pontus, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia, elect,according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, unto the sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ. Grace unto you and peace be multiplied. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy hath regenerated us unto a lively hope, by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead: Unto an inheritance, incorruptible, and undefiled and that cannot fade, reserved in heaven for you, Who, by the power of God, are kept by faith unto salvation, ready to be revealed in the last time.

I've been a member of a Reformed Presby church long enough to know what they teach and a person indulging in adultry and fornication for close to three decades, after being offered help by many, was finally de-membershiped from the most merciful church I'd ever seen.

You men are not teaching the Full Gospel, if you will say that a man living in sin for that long is saved.

What you are espousing is what is causing the apostasy that we see right now and why the fear of GOD is gone from the majority and why there are as many divorses with Christians as with unsaved and why we're not a witness to the world - because we're no different.

The "we can do anything we want and still be saved" LIE is what has killed our witness to the world. We're the laughing stock of the world and more like the world now than every before in Church history.

Consistent Loose living? Keep it to yourself - It's NOT in HIS WORD!
And neither did Spurgeon nor the others promote this blasphemy.

{eta} "Spurgeon" - https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=23578&forum=34&post_id=185594&refresh=Go


Better a millstone be tied around one's neck...

It seems to me that whenever you talk about sexual issues on a public forum, there are always a one or two women that come out of the woodwork and start speaking out of the hurt of their past sexual abuse--THAT HAS NEVER BEEN RESOLVED. But I'll say it is much more limited and not nearly as vicious on this board as another board I used to post on.

Do you believe King Saul was saved? He was clearly anointed of the Lord. But later in his tradgic life we read, "The spirit of the Lord departed from Saul and an evil spirit of the Lord troubled him". Towards the end of his life, Samuel told him, "This day you shall be with me". I believe it was Samuel that appeared to Saul in his encounter with the Witch at Endor.

So here is a man who never really was quite able to submit himself to the will of God in his life. Other kings had done things a lot worse than anything Saul ever did. The Lord was simply displeased with him because he did not have a heart to follow God.

But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.(1corinthains 5v11)
"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."(1corinthians 6v18-20)
Endzone the Truth is what God desire in you is restoration, His mercy is infinite but its purpose is to manifest His nature which is TRUTH in us. Without His mercy none of us will be safe yet that mercy is not seperate to HIS truth. The grace of God will not manifest in you if you did not first repent. God desire and love you more than you know but the will of HIS love is that HE will have HIS way in you and that is Truth. You must have a contrite heart in repentance then will HE manifest HIS power in you.
The salvation of your soul is something not be taken with lightness and God can never Justify any in sin or unholiness. He desire to walk with you as He work with every saint past or present , but without HIS holiness in you how can you see HIM.
The one that gives Comfort in sin is none but the voice of the wicked one, but God will manifest His mercy when you repent with a contrite heart , and HE will give you HIS grace to walk in TRUTH because you humble yourself before as for the proud HE resist them and they can never get HIS grace. Humble yourself under HIS might power in repentance .

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hi, i am righteous because He is righteous...i am Holy because He is holy ... i am in Christ and am walking in the spirit so when the Father looks at me He seess the glory of His Son. there is no condemnation for He took the judgement of the Father upon Himself.i am dead and the life i live is not my life but Christs who liveth in me.it is the goodness of God that leads to repentance. His mercies are new every morning so i like paul die daily and dead men have already completed the sentence and his wages. i am so glad you are saved because you do not do all that wickedness but i am totally trusting in the sloppiest agape there is .the love of Jesus and his mercy and grace and if i go to hell then so be it v=for there is none good no not one.i will put my faith and future in the nail scared hands of Jesus and Him only.jimp

You really know how to stretch things Craig. You first posted this same stuff in Feb. Four months ago and yet you have the nerve to ask just two pages back .... "What happens if I don't completely stop watching internet porn? Will things get even worse?"

SermonIndex Greg and another Moderator and others posted wisdom to you back in February and yet you have to even ask "What happens if I don't completely stop watching internet porn? Will things get even worse?"

I have Never been "sexually abused". I've watched some men go down the trail you've treaded for this long and I saw the end results. THAT is what I speak From.

I got strong in His Word and His Spirit through those encounters because I went to GOD on their behalf. HE gave me discernment to now know when someone means business with Him.

That you would boast of your exploits, not only on this thread but on others, and still hold on to these things is reprehensible. These are not the words of a repentent man.
I've been in the Church for 35 yrs and anyone staying in such blatant sin for as long as you have, truly needs to find Godly counsel from True Christian men Privately, as Greg Gordon advised you to do in February and not flaunt your sins in front of sisters and the young in Christ repeatedly on here.

You have been counsiled repeatedly. I remember all the threads and a simple search on your Endzone name will refresh your memory and see how many have warned you and tried to the best of their ability and Scriptural knowledge to help you.

NO, you Do Not have to go to any porn sites. Even unsaved men have been able to resist that. That's a premeditated action and out of the Love For Christ, it Can Be resisted. Just Don't!

Men who have had victory over this have posted to you but you always come back playing your self-pity violin - every time. You misquote Scripture when it suits you.
Your soul is at stake and that is the only reason I'm on this thread. But you don't WANT to hear the way out - you'd rather ask foolish and yet revealing questions like still watching porn.

I've known men who fell into sin that TRULY loved GOD and not for the great "manifestations of power" that they thought were from Him or that they could get from Him and they repented and are now more careful with their walk.

There ARE fruits that are signs of Salvation. Obedience out of Love is one of the main ones - but all I've seen out of your posts since February is a desire for sympathy with an under-current of that you don't truly have any true intent to take control of your vessel. I know unsaved men who have yet you mock GOD by saying that you can't.

1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
1Th 4:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
1Th 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:
1Th 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
1Th 4:7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
1Th 4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.


You have wanted your cake and eat it too. Salvation & Sin.

When a man keeps grasping for any Scripture he can find to justify his life-style of sin - that is a signal that should set off an alarm.
I know from all the young men I have talked to, that when they stumble and give into sin, that is not what a truly repentent sinner does.

Start reading here and find some Godly man to talk to - If you mean business. https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=37700&forum=36&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0


And if you don't - you are only defiling others with this many excuses posted and reposted.

GOD would never tell us to flee youthful lusts, abstain from fornication, possess our vessel and so forth SO many times in His Word if it were not possible... so you are making Him a liar. A true Christian also has the indwelling Spirit of Creator GOD within him, so he's even more capable of ceasing these actions than an unsaved husband who stops cheating on his wife in these ways.

You've been counseled enough here and you spurn the true council and just reply to who you have chosen to, that have tried to help you - as it's convienent to you.

If you've been to "other forums" for this and are still brining it up, even 4 months after your first post on it here - then you are NOT Trying, because I know that you have gotten sound counsil that every man of GOD has received.

Your testimony is not convincing that you were ever truly saved - but it's still up to you to do something about that.
"Sweet voices" is not evidence of regenration. New Agers get "sweet voices, etc" that you've used as your proof of Salvation. The proof of salvation is a New Creature in Christ that strives because of Love to obey His Word.

Yes, I have seen this same thing before. A man grasping at any Bible story he can to continue in his sin and still get to Heaven. That is truly a repulsive way to use GOD's Word.

You will not find ONE such story in the New Testament amongst those who came to Christ in SINCERITY that lived a life-style of immorality for decades. Not a one.

If you want the assurance - walk the walk like the rest of us have been told to by His Word. You are no one special to get away with what others have never been able to, since He walked this earth.

suducing spirits are verry real

paull talked about some people recieving other spirits
thee spirits imatate the holy spirit ,but with out the same conviction of sin ,and you will think that these spirit are godly spirit

to sin for thirty years with out powerfull conviction in the first months of you walk with this spirit
is indacationg that this is not the holy spirit that you recieved

there is a verry power suding spirit that operates in the pentacostal carasmatic ring

todd bently was one who wealed this spirt ,as did others before him ,,,rodney howerd brown

can i ask if you have been influneced by this new wave of spirituality

one can recieve this spirit ,and never be born of god

this is more then likly what has happened in this case ,end zone

many people can even taste of the holy spirit at the beginning of there spiritual walk ,and never be truly born again , you may have tasted the power of god drawing you to him self ,and then you turned to an experance in conection with thes false blessing

but i dont believe a born again christan can do that

i dont to start quoting scripture

but ,,,he who is born of god keeps him self and the evil one cannot touch him

from you confession the evil is now touching you and tormenting you

he who is born of god does not sin because god seed is in him and he cannot sin because he is born of god

you have continued in sin with out repentance

the bible is clear

let the sword of the spirit cut you deep

brother if you believe you are saved ,,you will never repent ,you need to stop beleieving you are a child of god ,,,,,,and start hearing the word of god like a lost sinner does,so that you might repent believe and call on the lord to save you ,, if you dont ,, you will never make it ,,dont put it off , you may not have much time left

i dont no what else to say

i dont want to give you a false scence of security

find some sermons of rolf barnad ,and listen to 20 or more sermons and let the word cut deep

im trembling wile i write ,,,hear his word brother please ,please hear it

Jesus-is-God, lady, your are a complete whack job. I don't know if you're a man or a woman, but you sound like 2 or 3 other women that have just exploded on me regarding this sexual issue in my life. Your trying to give me your advice is like me trying to advise you on the pains of childbirth. Everything you say about me is a lie--that I was never saved and that I'm just trying to get sympathy and that I have no desire to stop this sin. Nothing could be further from the truth. That is just your misguided take on things. I'll tell you what. If you spent less time posting on this board and more time in prayer, you might actually hear from God and be lead by the Holy Spirit and actually have something worthwhile to say on this board. So please do me a favor and don't post or comment on this thread that I started again.

Oh, I know perfectly well what your next move is. You're going to go crying and whining to the moderators about what a unacceptable post this is, blah blah blah. There is usually at least 1 wimpy feminized guy that will agree with your bleeding heart and delete the post. I just hope you read it first. You don't know didly squat about me or my relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. You also will never know what I've gone through spiritually with this battle or the degree of pain of having a wounded spirit. I'm tired of whining women like you exploding on me. So please, don't comment on any of my post anymore if you are able to control youself. Thanks, Craig.