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| Re: | | Food for thought: The Jews have historically accepted many Messiah's. Granted, they have tended towards secular Messiah's, but, if they would choose a secular Messiah, why not an Arab one?
As it is, where do the Scriptures ever say that the Jews would embrace the anti-Christ as a Messianic figure? _________________ Jimmy H
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| 2009/5/27 20:29 | Profile |
| Re: The hand writing is on the wall | | I think we can be fairly sure that it will not be a Jew from Israel but it could be a man of Jewish decent like much of your European nobility. One thing is for sure is he is going to be some one with the capability to take political control of the revived Roman Empire.
Daniel 7:23-25 (New International Version) 23 "He gave me this explanation: 'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. 24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. 25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time
If you look at Dan 7:24 the last part of the verse it says the anti-christ will take control of this empire of 10 kings. The EU. is currently ruling over what used to be the Roman Empire. The EU. also has just 10 member nation or kings that can vote .These nations are called the modified Brussels treaty or the WEU. Those same 10 members all have militaries. The union of these militaries for a defense mechanism is referred to as the WEU. AND THERE IS ONLY ONE MAN THAT HAS THE POWER TO COMMAND ALL OF THOSE 10 ARMIES .It is the high rep. for the EU. This position was created under section 666 of the codified European documents and under recommendation 666 the high rep. was given the authority to take control of these 10 militaries if he declares a state of emergency. There is absolutely no chance of any one from Israel having any chance of gaining that authority. The bible tells us very clearly where the anti-christ will come from. The hand writing is on the wall. May God bless all of his saints with oil. ;-) |
| 2009/5/28 22:06 | | KingJimmy Member

Joined: 2003/5/8 Posts: 4419 Charlotte, NC
| Re: | | Zechariah 5:7-11 seems to call for the anti-Christ to come out of the plains of Shinar, which is ancient Babylon and modern day Iraq. That's a bit of a drive from the European Union. Assuming a somewhat similar social-geo-political situation in the future, as it is unlikely you are going to displace a billion Muslims, this would seem to call for the anti-Christ to arise out of an Islamic context. Of course, as is clear from the Scriptures, it is obvious he will deviate from anything we would say constitutes Islam in any of its forms today. Perhaps his concessions/compromises with Islam and failure to live up to their own expectations and ideals is what will cause many within the 10-nation federation to rebel against him? _________________ Jimmy H
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| 2009/5/28 23:25 | Profile | nearthecross Member

Joined: 2009/5/13 Posts: 74
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The EU. is currently ruling over what used to be the Roman Empire.
Hi dmoney. Actually the EU is currently ruling over what used to be [i]half[/i] of the Roman Empire. A great portion of the Roman Empire is missing; namely, the parts in North Africa and the Middle East. Many nations such as Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordania, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, and many others would need to be joined together with Europe in order for it to be truly and entirely the Roman Empire. It would be erroneous to claim that the European Union by itself comprises the whole Empire.
[url=http://www.roman-empire.net/maps/empire/extent/rome-modern-day-nations.html]Here's[/url] a map of the ancient Roman Empire, if it helps.
I think we would do well to consider the [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=28641&forum=48]Muslim Demographics[/url] thread and video which provides much evidence that in some 20 years or so, the continent of Europe will be almost entirely Islamic. That seems scary, I must admit, but it's a fact that we just cannot ignore.
I don't doubt what was said about the high representative position 666, it may very well be the perfect seat for the anitchrist, but who's to say the man has to come from somewhere in Europe? What if in about 20 years Europe becomes an entirely Islamic continent, thus converting nearly all the European Union into Muslim? What if this Islamic Union then decides to unite with the Middle East and the countries in Northern Africa to form an Islamic Super-State, thus forming a complete Roman Empire? And the man the people choose to govern is not European but of Middle-Eastern descent? Something to consider.
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| 2009/5/28 23:32 | Profile | nearthecross Member

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Zechariah 5:7-11 seems to call for the anti-Christ to come out of the plains of Shinar, which is ancient Babylon and modern day Iraq.
Hello KingJimmy, that's very interesting, I'll have to look into that.
There are other Scriptures which also tell us where he will come from. As I wrote earlier on this thread, it is possible the Antichrist come from Syria:
-Isaiah mentions many times "the Assyrian", "the King of Assyria", "the king of Babylon/the opresor" (ancient Assyria and Babylon) (Isaiah 10:5-15, 13:1-22, 14:24-27, 30:27-33 & 31:4-9). Syria is the current power broker of the Middle East, not to mentioned thoroughly entangled in the Palestinean conflict.
-Ezekiel mentions the "prince of Tyre" (Ezekiel 28:1-10). Tyre (Lebannon of modern-day) is practically controlled by Syria. -Daniel mentions "the king of the North" (Daniel 11:6-8,11,13,15,40). Syria is directly north of Israel.
-The Syria of the present day has a considerable amount of control over Babylon (Iraq)
Leaders from all over the world are paying visits to Syrian president Bashar Al-Asad. Everyone from the Pope, to many other religious leaders, Bush, the prime ministers of France and England, even "America's pastor" himself--Rick Warren (which makes me want to run even further from this man and his teachings). As I said, Syria is at the front of the Palestinean conflict, so everyone is striving to be nice lest anything worse occurs to Israel. Everyone is coming to negotiate with, or pay homage to, this very cordial and diplomatic gentleman who seems to hold the world under his grip.
-Another fact: the last name of the president, Al-Asad, means "the Lion" in Arabic. The family name used to be Al-Wahash ([b]THE BEAST[/b]--yes!!!) but was changed to "the Lion" to make it more appropriate and dignified for a leader. It may be him, or one of his sons, who knows?
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| 2009/5/29 0:08 | Profile |
| Re: Will Antichrist rule from Iraq? | |
We all know that antichrist will rule from Iraq. At least that is what the "left Behind" series of Books by Tim Lehaye and Larry Jenkins told the story.
Many people in American are not familiar with the largest Embassy in the World. What Embassy is that? The United States Embassy in Faluga, Iraq.
This is one link with a picture
[url=http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0415-07.htm]Massive Embassy in Iraq flaunts U.S. Power, Critics say[/url]
This is another one. The American Embassy sits on 104 acres of land, right on the Tigris River!
The pictures that were available 2 years ago, that showed the magnitude of this thing are no longer online.
[url=http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/11/langewiesche200711]American Embassy in Iraq, on the Tigris River[/url]
Based upon the above, it appears that Antichrist will indeed rule from Baghdad. He will rule the part of the statue with 10 toes of iron mixed with clay, the revived Roman Empire.
We will not be around to see Antichrist or any of this, but we will come with Jesus Christ, when He comes with His Saints at His second coming!
Daniel 2:44-45 44.And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. 45. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
Sincerely,
Walter
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| 2009/5/29 1:01 | | KingJimmy Member

Joined: 2003/5/8 Posts: 4419 Charlotte, NC
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There are other Scriptures which also tell us where he will come from. As I wrote earlier on this thread, it is possible the Antichrist come from Syria:
Ancient Assyria also included Babylon. To be specific, Assyria never included any European countries within it's boundaries.
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-Daniel mentions "the king of the North" (Daniel 11:6-8,11,13,15,40). Syria is directly north of Israel.
Technically speaking, "the king of the North" or "armies of the North" was ancient Babylon. As large as Syria is presently, it still doesn't quite encompass ancient Babylon and the "plains of Shinar." Of course, being that area is so volatile, the borders could be easily redefined.
Either way, I think there is enough clearly spelled out in prophecy to discount any notions of a "revived Roman empire" headed up by a European anti-Christ. Given the present political climate, I think a strong case could be made for some sort of Islamic anti-Christ, especially considering that prophecy is pretty clear about the origins and source of his activity. Not to mention the clear anti-Semitic disposition of the anti-Christ and his desire to persecute the Jews and lead an assault on Jerusalem.
I think we can be sure of one thing, the Reformers got it wrong, the pope is not THE anti-Christ :-) _________________ Jimmy H
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| 2009/5/29 6:41 | Profile |
| Re: Pope is the False Prophet, leading the false church | |
To Kingjimmy:
No, the Pope is not the Antichrist, the Pope is the false prophet, leading the false church into the Great Tribultation.
The Reformers were pretty close. The Pope will be part of the Un-Holy Trinity, always working in unison with the Antichirst!
KingJimmy, have you had a chance to listen to Roger Oakland and his analysis of the "Emerging Church", that is ROME?
CHECK IT OUT HERE: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiLUjYauzUs]Roger Oakland The Emerging Church which leads to ROME[/url]
Sincerely,
Walter
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There are other Scriptures which also tell us where he will come from. As I wrote earlier on this thread, it is possible the Antichrist come from Syria:
Ancient Assyria also included Babylon. To be specific, Assyria never included any European countries within it's boundaries.
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-Daniel mentions "the king of the North" (Daniel 11:6-8,11,13,15,40). Syria is directly north of Israel.
Technically speaking, "the king of the North" or "armies of the North" was ancient Babylon. As large as Syria is presently, it still doesn't quite encompass ancient Babylon and the "plains of Shinar." Of course, being that area is so volatile, the borders could be easily redefined.
Either way, I think there is enough clearly spelled out in prophecy to discount any notions of a "revived Roman empire" headed up by a European anti-Christ. Given the present political climate, I think a strong case could be made for some sort of Islamic anti-Christ, especially considering that prophecy is pretty clear about the origins and source of his activity. Not to mention the clear anti-Semitic disposition of the anti-Christ and his desire to persecute the Jews and lead an assault on Jerusalem.
I think we can be sure of one thing, the Reformers got it wrong, the pope is not THE anti-Christ :-)
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| 2009/5/29 10:30 | |
| Re: What do you believe about the anti Christ and why? | | I dipped into this thread but didn't have time to post on that day, but thought this is interesting when considering where 'Babylon' might be. Certainly, I believe there is significance in the location of the Babylon Gate, even though I'm not sure how to define that significance.
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/04/iraq.babylon]Iraq appeals to Berlin for return of Babylon Gate - 2002[/url]
A couple of days ago, I read how Samson took the gates off a city in enemy (Philistine) territory (They were not at war at the time.) and I realised that removing the gates is a fatal breach of defences, or, it is a sign of the victory of the conqueror who has prevailed to enter.
Psalm 24: 7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 8 Who [is] this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. 9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift [them] up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 10 Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he [is] the King of glory.
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| 2009/6/9 8:10 | | psalm1 Member

Joined: 2007/1/30 Posts: 1230
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I was brought up in a pre trib hub and never was able to receive it because there were no verses and the Lord showed me the truth in the scriptures that the Church will not be raptured before the tribulation that is total nonsense.
Don't challenge something you have no idea about. I have PROVEN post trib to be an impossibility.
When you say"the Lord showed me the truth" and take an erroneous position,what is going on? |
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