Are you with all those who say God purposed Adam to fail just to redeem fallen man? Perhaps you might explain why God would do such a thing; to allow so much misery for 4K years? For His pleasure, no doubt?
_________________Paul Frederick West
Get understanding.Whose next . . .
Was Adam purposed to Fall or was he purposed for the incarnation of Christ Jesus?
[b]It ain't pride as you suppose, Bro., just some vented frustrationat with those who accuse without good investigation of what is being presented. Notice, no one has commented on the Oswald Chambers references, choosing rather to keep on accusing me of heresy. Is He also a heretic? I see that more as a pride issue than anything, not wishing to be wrong or perhaps disturbed from their status quote religion... at any cost. "Who's next" is only meant for them. Even you, had you read my reply to rbanks would find no pride from me in that, i.e., unless you wish to find some. But then that is easy regardless of who writes anything. After all, who wants to be told they are wrong. I have run out ideas in how to present my perspective to those will not be persuaded regardless of one's 'humble' dispostion. All you have to do is re-view my posts from the beginning and watch the responses go sour when I hit upon something unfamiliar to them that shakes their world; contradicts their biased commentaries.. It takes time to think and then to write and even more to grasp what is being written. That sortta sez it all about those with the 'oh so fast', replies. Remember I wrote once, "Read the Bible and write your own commentary". I believe you agreed with me then. Well, that's what I still do. No one has the right to call anyone a heretic without careful examination of what is written by that person. No guess or 'seems like you saying' in the attempt to get one to say more about what he ISN"T saying. They all try hard to do that. Sortta Satanic in my estimation.Anyhow, words mean something. I sometimes like the challenge to write it out because it keeps me on my toes to be certain, at least to my mind what I believe to be the more complete gospel. To be a heretic one must violate the word of God. Where is my violation? . . . and where is the pride that after the accusations I would respond: Whose next?
Have lost track, but if I am not mistaken you have accused three here with the question of "Are you born again?"
Ormly,Answer the question, did you ask to be reinstated or not?
[b]Nope! Apparently you all just missed me. I did note there wasn't much activity goin on til I arrived. Seems all the arguing over who struck John was finished and there was nothing more for folks to argue over. . Maybe you should thank me for pumping flesh blood and something meanful, into it. [/b]
Beter PM Mamaluk. I might not be here long enough to reply to your inquiry. I am sorry should that be the case.
Or you just took advantage of our longsuffering and patience. Truly sad that this is your only response.[i]Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.[/i] Joh 10:1 Goodbye Ormly, may the Lord grant you repentance.Thread locked.