In this we must keep in mind, God changed the names of several in the scriptures. Knowing the circumstances of why He did can help us with this.So whatta ya think?
None is wise enough to presume to understand God in His infinite wisdom!!
_________________Martin G. Smith
Thats good thinking. Sez much.. . .))C'mon, you can do better than that, can't you?I say the latter because God wanted "many sons brought unto [His] Glory". . . Paul wrote that.
Ormly wrote:So Which is it, Was Adam purposed to Fall or was he purposed for the incarnation of Christ Jesus?
Let us look at Scripture-Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. We read in the Revelation that Christ was "the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world"(Rev 13:8).So, it is very easy to see that God knew that in fact Adam would fall and plunge mankind into sin.But God had already established that there would be a Savior. I suppose in one sense, yes Adam was purposed to fall, but not by God's design. Adam used his free will(yes Adam had free will, similar to us as Christians who can choose God's way or our own, but the unregenerate do not have this ability)and chose to think that he indeed knew better than God what was good and evil.We cannot climb into the Heavenly realm to figure this out, but we must understand that even Satan was created by God, and exists for God's own pleasure and purposes.For us and for our salvation, Adam was allowed to fall, and thus Christ was needed and we see in the Scriptures the failed attempts of Satan to stop the Seed of the woman that would crush his head.I think Psalm 115:3 beautifully sums up much of what happens in our world-"But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased."
_________________patrick heaviside
From that I surmise you believe Adam was created to fail just so Jesus could be born 4 thousand years later to redeem us. Did I get that right or did I leave something out?
Ormly,Once you get this figured out, then what?ginnyrose
_________________Sandra Miller
That is very true.The hebrew word for,in the begining (B'resheet)contains the gospel when you break it down.It seems possible that Adam being one with Eve was destroyed with the sin of Eve.What I mean is that she had to be 100% different from him but his love for her may have been the same.In Jer.3:1 it states that if a women is divorced and joins to another it would corrupt the land to take her back, but he (Yeshua) said come back.This is no contradiction.In Num.5 we hear about a cup, to save his bride he had to take on flesh and take the cup meant for us.Could this be the cup he talked about in the garden.Adam was a shadow of Messiah.
_________________Earl
))) Patience, Dear One.
preacher777E wrote:That is very true.The hebrew word for,in the begining (B'resheet)contains the gospel when you break it down.It seems possible that Adam being one with Eve was destroyed with the sin of Eve.What I mean is that she had to be 100% different from him but his love for her may have been the same.In Jer.3:1 it states that if a women is divorced and joins to another it would corrupt the land to take her back, but he (Yeshua) said come back.This is no contradiction.In Num.5 we hear about a cup, to save his bride he had to take on flesh and take the cup meant for us.Could this be the cup he talked about in the garden.Adam was a shadow of Messiah.
