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| Re: | | My 2 cents worth. There is not one thing in this world that the devil doesn't attempt to duplicate about God(through people). There are many messages that are preached containing 95% truth and 5% lie, all for the soul purpose of penetrating the minds and deceiving. 2 Tim 3:5-8 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. KJV
I have never experienced and outward Holy laughter. In my inter being I have had much joy. The main question is, are these people with the Holy laughter preaching Jesus. Jesus said, If they are let em preach. Luke 9:49-50 49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. 50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us. KJV
And then this opens up another can of worms. These were early church Apostles with gifts. Does anyone now have all the same gifts as did the early Apostles? We can also ask ourselves this question, who has the authority to write or add to the word of God as the Apostles did? Not me. Then we might could have an answer to the question.
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| 2008/5/2 9:28 | | psalm1 Member

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| Re: | | During the Welsh revival of 1859, "many leaped and danced in the exuberance of their rapture."27 Sometimes related to the laughing phenomenon is a spontaneous dancing for joy. Praying Hyde, a staid Presbyterian, is described after a time of intense prayer at the Sialkot Convention (similar to Keswick), "He begins to sing, 'Tis done, the great transaction's done,' and he is so full of joy that his whole body begins to move, he claps his hands, then his feet begin to move, and look! he begins to dance for joy, and others join him until the whole place rings with God's praises."28 Such dancing also occurred upon occasion in C&MA meetings. Simpson writes of an African-American C&MA meeting he visited in 1895: "We witnessed a sacred dance by about fifty of the women." They swayed and moved arms and feet, keeping time to the music. "The effect was truly grand."29 As Vinson Synan notes, for some holiness groups, spontaneous dance or holy laughter was considered an evidence of Holy Spirit baptism.30
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| 2008/5/2 9:41 | Profile | psalm1 Member

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KrispyKrittr wrote: David... it might surprise you to know that I'm not against speaking in tongues. I do think it is widely abused, and in a lot of cases it is done out of order. But I have never once said that tongues is not of God.
You whine about people making blanket statements about the things you promote... "holy laughter", so-called "revivals" (which are not revivals by definition)... yet you turn around and make blanket statements about anyone who might question some things... calling them "religious" people, etc.
You're being a hypocrite in the worst fashion.
Krispy
I was thinking your next post will be "my dad can beat up your dad" |
| 2008/5/2 9:44 | Profile |
| Re: holy laughter | | 2 Corinthians 5:7 We live by faith, not by sight. |
| 2008/5/2 9:56 | | psalm1 Member

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| Re: | | Again Chambers records in his journal May 6, 1907, "It is an unspeakably blessed thing to see souls come out under the blessing of the baptism of the Holy Ghost and Fire. Some simply laugh, peals of the heartiest and most blessed laughter you ever heard, just a modern edition of 'Then was our mouth filled with laughter.'" A third time Chambers writes on May 27, "Many souls cut loose, there were tears and laughter and all the blessed signs of those revival times the Lord brings so mysteriously and suddenly upon His people. It is a great business to open up all the windows of the soul to heaven and live on the Hallelujah side." |
| 2008/5/2 10:13 | Profile |
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I was thinking your next post will be "my dad can beat up your dad"
I'm not even going to respond to that foolishness. You need to grow up.
Anyway... no one here is saying there isnt joy. Or that we shouldnt dance before the Lord. These are good things... Biblical things. These are things we point to in scripture and see that they were done. The nation of Israel danced before the Lord after they crossed the Red Sea. David danced before the Lord when the ark was brought into the Jersusalem. These are scriptural things.
You are implying that we are against that. These are merely vain imaginations within your head. No one here has said anything against such things.
What I am against are things that are done in which people have no control over themselves... laughing, barking, roaring like lions... none of which are ever indicated in scripture. Not once. Never.
And as stated, tho falling on deaf and deceived ears, scripture says that such things are [b]contrary[/b] to the fruit of the Spirit.
But obviously you dont care what scripture says, you're going to do what YOU want to do, and anyone who might challenge you is guilty of blasphemey against the Holy Spirit.
You are deceived.
It's amazing how you endlessly quote from sources OTHER than the Bible. You are on such thin ice spiritually... it's cracking... and you dont notice... and dont care. How sad that is.
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| Re: | | I don't have any doubts about the power of the Holy Spirit'S POWER to do anything. With God nothing is impossible. Where my doubts are is in fallen men. Where the suspicion really starts for me is when a man talks about being filled with the spirit and the gifts of the spirit being manifested in him and then tell me he doesn't stand against the things that God hates, such as abortion, homosexuality, homosexual marriage, the lottery. Then he uses the excuse for not standing against them, we must have love. We have a greek word for that mindset. BOLOGNA |
| 2008/5/2 10:31 | |
| Re: | | The Lord really impressed upon me that the time has come to "shake the dust off" concerning this discussion. Then He comfirmed it through 2 different people in PM's within minutes. God is good.
Therefore, David... the floor is yours. I've said what I've had to say, and you obviously don't care what anyone here thinks. (which makes me wonder why you're here)
So, I'll not waste anymore of your time. You're on your own. I'll not be engaged in this discussion anymore.
[b]2 John 1:10-11[/b]
Krispy |
| 2008/5/2 10:42 | | psalm1 Member

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| Re: | | Praying John Hyde, the great intercessor and missionary to China also experienced holy laughter in the summer of the same year. His companion relates of a low caste Punjabi intercessor:
How often has G_____, after most awful crying seemed to break through the hosts of evil and soar up into the presence of the Father! You could see the smile of God reflected in his face. Then he would laugh aloud in the midst of his prayer. It was the joy of a son reveling in the delight of his father's smile. God has been teaching John [Hyde] and me that his name is the God of Isaaclaughter. . . . Rejoicing, laughing, the same word as Isaac. This holy laughter seemed to relieve the tension and give Heaven's own refreshment to wrestling spirits." |
| 2008/5/2 10:53 | Profile | psalm1 Member

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| Re: | | This is a previous post I made;
Quote; "And about speaking in tongues, I speak in tongues. I believe in laughing and in the joy of the Lord as well."
And this speaking in tongues,are you aware that religious men will try to tell you that you do so under the power of the devil?
They bring strong scriptural doctrine to try and take from you what you know is God. You did not acquire this gift,you received it. No man can take it from you. It is from heaven and I nor anyone else can convince you otherwise.
It is a glorious thing to have something personally given them of God. This doesnt happen everyday and it is priceless. You didn't earn it or deserve it. But you know it came from heaven.
now you know that some are able to "manufacture" tongues. Or maybe satan can counterfeit tongues.
They can throw all these arguments at you but you know that you know that you know it is God all the way!
It is so glorious being in his presence. I love revival and seeing people touched and receiving their miracles.
Quote: "No one can convince you, pray and ask God if this truly is of God or a delusion because those who love NOT the truth in it's entirety will be deceived."
And no one can convince you through scripture that your gift of tongues is of the devil. Even if they show counterfeit tongues from utube.
Thank God we have him and not just a Book. we have the one that wrote the book living in us.
"My sheep know my voice"
David
The gifts from god are different than what you acquire. You dont deserve his gifts but he gives them anyway.
Can we find any example of tongues being misused or manufactured?
So for consistency sake we will blast tongue talkers?
John the revelator did not come off patmos wondering if he received from a false God.
He KNEW it was God.
John 10:4
4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.
Holy Laughter meetings came and went for me but the wonderful fruit still remains to this day. When i come up against life and death situations and i find myself in intercession I sometimes experience the Laughter. God is good and anything he hands me is RIGHT. Even when he judges me He is right and good.
The Holy Laughter meetings were awesome and I will always be thankful for that wonderful time. So many were delivered and healed and set free.
Those times are precious and I dont know of any Holy Laughter going on now.
I have been born again,baptised in the Holy Spirit,and been through deliverance.
All were of God no matter what some man may say .
I know who my redeemer is. And I am sure someone can come up with plenty of scripture against born again,Baptism,and deliverance,and laughter,and I am also sure they will feel like champions,having put down what God did in my life,but in the end they hurt only themselves.
No man can take what God gives. Even if I surrender the back of my neck to the sword,that is the ultimate.
David
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