I love this story wigglesworth tells......

"A woman came to me in the city of Liverpool and said, "I would like you to help me. I wish you would join with me in prayer. My husband is a drunkard and every night comes into the home under the influence of drink. Won't you join me in prayer for him?" I said to the woman, "Have you a handkerchief ?" She took out a handkerchief and I prayed over it and told her to lay it on the pillow of the drunken man. He came home that night and laid his head on the pillow in which this handkerchief was tucked. He laid his head on more than the pillow that night. He laid his head on the promise of God. In Mark 11 :24, we read, "What things soever ye desire when ye pray, believe that ye receive them and ye shall have them."

The next morning the man got up and called at the first saloon that he had to pass on his way to work and ordered some beer. He tasted it and said to the bartender, "You have put some poison in this beer." He could not drink it, and went on to the next saloon and ordered some more beer. He tasted it and said to the man behind the counter, "You put some poison in this beer, I believe you folks have agreed to poison me." The bartender was indignant at being thus charged. The man said, "I will go somewhere else." He went to another saloon and the same thing happened as in the two previous saloons. He made such a fuss that they turned him out. After he came out from work he went to another saloon to get some beer, and again he thought he had been poisoned and he made so much disturbance that he was thrown out. He went to his home and told his wife what had happened and said, ".It seems as though all the fellows have agreed to poison me." His wife said to him, "Can't you see the hand of the Lord in this, that He is making you dislike the stuff that has been your ruin?" This word brought conviction to the man's heart and he came to the meeting and got saved. The Lord has still power to set the captives free.

I dont think some other power or spirit convinced this man to be saved.
It appears God does still move through handkercheifs.

David

Katy-did,

David..one of my favorite stories is the one where Smith went to an older woman's home(a widow?) who's son had fallen into sin and had left his family..wife and children,choosing a debauched life...but was staying at his mother's house and she was besides herself with concern.Smith heard her story and then simply went to lay down on the fellow's bed,praying earnestly for a few hours until the burden lifted,then left and went home..the testimony was that as soon as the man came home later that night and laid down on that bed..he was so convicted of his sin that he repented and went home the next day a changed man..back to his waiting family..Praise God for restored lives and families!

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G.M. (Destiny) Sweet

No where did I say The apostles did not have signs and wonders and miracles follow them.


Here is what I've been trying to say. Maybe this will help put things int perspective.


http://www.letusreason.org/Pent8.htm

http://www.letusreason.org/Pent40.htm

Katy

Dear Saints,
Are not the gifts given for the edification of the body, the perfecting of the saints, and the work of the ministry?

Last week a dear brother came to us in church and had a horrible rash all over his body. The doctors could not help him, they had no idea what it was. His wife was in tears with distress. We prayed for him to the One who has declared Himself as our Healer. On Friday my husband met with him at church and his rash was gone! He was rejoicing and thanking the Lord our God!

When we are in trouble where are we to run to? Is it not the Great I Am? We will have trouble, trials, and tribulation on the earth, but is He not our Help in those times of need?

Did He not cause the wind and the storm to cease, after He commanded His disciples to go to the other side? When we are sent, will we not encounter the enemy which is a supernatural force, will we not need supernatural power to fight the good fight of faith?

In His amazing love,
Lowly
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Learn of Me, for I am meek and lowly of heart.............

If wigglesworth were alive today , i believe he would respond to "letusreason" in the following manner...................."It is interesting to me how "watchmen" claim to be the only ones left who are true to God and his word and yet their humanness trips them up when interpreting Gods word.
They fail to realize that in attacking the works and the saints operating in healing etc....they unwittingly attack Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
Who is Jesus? Is he powerless?
Does he need permission from these people?

Here is a quote from these so called experts;
......"Today we are confronted with a new type of Gospel, one of experiencing the supernatural, Healing (and sometimes even success are included ). Are signs and wonders part of the Gospel? The promise of healing as it is taught today is never found in scripture, there were no healing miracle crusades. There were real healings but they were not the focus. The Focus was Christ and his forgiveness and man being reconciled to a holy God. Its interesting that when we hear of all the promises claimed today we never hear of the promise of persecution or tribulations for those who truly follow the Lord (Mk.10:30; Jn.16:33; 1 Thess.3:4; Rev1:9). Try preaching that at a crusade and see who shows up, or see how popular your ministry will be. These promises are just as viable as any other but unattractive for those who want their ears tickled

So we see the the ones judging have been indicted by their own folly.
They are today heaping teachers to themselves on a mission to ruin a segment of the body that would dare step out in faith to fulfill their destiny and the great commission.

They also fail to represent Jesus but they themselves preach a different Jesus.....a powerless Jesus.
They unwittingly are so obsessed with their policing of the body they have laid down their priestly office to pick up police uniforms and the law to ruin anyone not marching to their drumbeat.
Thats the thing about judgement. It has a "boomerang effect"
If a person or a ministry is top heavy on judging(especially unscripturally like "letusreason") they themselves receive their own intent.
Pro;26-2 An undeserved curse cannot find rest.

They say"only the gospel that Paul preached"
Should we omit the Jesus of John the revelator?
The early saints preached from the old testament......Should all types and shadows be thrown out?


this is a no brainer!!!


David

What I love about Wigglesworth was that he was an earthen vessel who knew the heart of his Heavenly Father and the compassion of his Savior. He was moved when he saw the affliction of God's people. He was burdened when he saw the souls of men bound by the enemy.

He had a tremendous heart for the lost. When he was younger he used to stand out on a corner after work and pray. He waited on the Lord to show him who he should share the gospel with. He would not move until he was directed and shared Jesus with someone. He did this everyday and saw so many people repent, and believe in the atoning work of Christ.

A miracle is just a word we give for God's supernatural act. Did Jesus not show us the heart of His Father when He saw their affliction and reached out with mercy and lifted them out of their pit. Or released them from their prison, or healed them from their disease. Was it not lovingkindness for His own?

When He responded and acted it took something supernatural to deliver them from their circumstances, so we call His action a miracle.

It is about the love of God seeing the condition of His people and having compassion. Shall we not see and have compassion.

When the woman who couldn't stand up straight was seen by Jesus and He loosed her from her infirmity, did He not compare it to an animal being locked in a stall. Was He not moved to help her? Have you never been that woman?

Have you never been the woman with the dead son? Have you never had an issue of life drain you, and have no answer? Have you never been placed in a prison by guilt remorse regret and shame? Has the slanderer never oppressed you with lies about your failures, your uselessness, unworthiness as you have tried to serve the Lord with all your heart?

This is about love and compassion, the miracle is just the name of the Lord's response. What else could we call it. Our God is our Healer, Deliver, Savior, etc. He is wondrous and just, and His mercies are new every morning. He has always been actively involved in the lives of His people.

May I have my Fathers heart, and the compassion of my Savior.

In His amazing love,
Lowly
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Learn of Me, for I am meek and lowly of heart.....................