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How do you dress when you go to church?

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If you knew anything about me... you would know that I dont "go to church". Most of the time church comes to me.

I left the traditional church a long time ago. We have small churches that meet in homes (remember? like in Acts?). They are kept small on purpose... if one gets too large to meet into a home, it morphs into two groups.

Krispy

Remember when the Ark was Brought to Jerusalem
Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab, were guiding the new cart 4 with the ark of God on it, and Ahio was walking in front of it. 5 David and the whole house of Israel were celebrating with all their might before the LORD, with songs and with harps, lyres, tambourines, sistrums and cymbals.

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BenbBrockway wrote:

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Remember when the Ark was Brought to Jerusalem
Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab, were guiding the new cart 4 with the ark of God on it, and Ahio was walking in front of it. 5 David and the whole house of Israel were celebrating with all their might before the LORD, with songs and with harps, lyres, tambourines, sistrums and cymbals.

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Sure I remember. Do you remember what happened when Uzzah reached out and presumptously touched the Glory?

KrispyKrittr wrote:
I'm glad we dont have to live by the OT. I dont think I could keep up with everything.;/quote]

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Ormly, you claim you're not a legalist, but your words on this thread betray you.

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Not hardly. I believe God is Holy and His Holiness is something to be revered and approached with fear and trembling, held in awe and to be given our best. Even the some sloppy contempary music speaks of His "awesomeness" yet violate it in His presence.

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You seem to be fashioning your New Covenant life after the Old Covenant way.

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Why --because I give you an example from it? God's ways and means and Holiness, haven't changed.

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Feel free to do that, if you wish. I would prefer to worship God in Spirit and in Truth. We have freedom. Not freedom to sin, or live in a way that is not holy... but freedom from the yoke of the Law.

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And held to a greater accountability in handling His Glory, if I may say so. The priviledge of having Deep calling to Deep and we treat it like a day at the beach.

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You want to sandwich people into a little space and say "this is the only way to worship". But you seem to forget that your way of worship wont work for those in China who meet in caves. It wont work for that tribe in Africa. It works great in your westernized format... but God isnt an American.

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They give their best to Him. That's what The Lord expects from us. They realize what is at stake which is far more than I see in the contemporary way here in our post modern, purpose driven, church. Can it be said that is being done by imitating the Rolling Stones or any other group?

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God is a creative God. Get up some morning and watch the sun come up. Sometimes I drive up on the Blue Ridge Parkway near my house and watch the sun come up over Cold Mountain. Oh man... how spectacular. So many colors. So many sounds.

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Worship of God isn't a time to be creative.

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Then I come back down from the mountain and someone wants to tell me that God doesnt want us to worship Him creatively? No, that doesnt make sense to me. All things done in order, of course. But rigidly and with no thought or creativity? No... that goes against God's very personality.

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No, that only reveals your determination to protect the thinking of this worlds reasoning.

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I know you'll rip my words apart and make them mean things that they dont, and put words in my mouth... you're very good at it. But I think most folks reading this (who have actually taken the time to get to know me and understand me) will get it.

Krispy

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I get it and I don't agree with you. I've been there -- got all the coffee mugs and tee shirts.




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lol.... you certianly like to argue with things that are off the subject! Must you be so argumentative? Of course I remember, but that doesn't have to do with how we worship. He broke a covenant that was made between God and man. They weren't suppose to touch the ark no matter what... so what does that have to do with worship by singing and instruments!?

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Would I be too bold if I said that most of your worship is probably done with no music at all?

Gen 22:5 And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.

I'm not sure worship is "raising your hands and shouting." Maybe that is praise. Is there a difference? I guess I see worship more as obedience and love..

Could it be true that worship encompasses praise, yet they are not one and the same?

Am I way off?

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KrispyKrittr wrote:

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You want to sandwich people into a little space and say "this is the only way to worship". But you seem to forget that your way of worship wont work for those in China who meet in caves. It wont work for that tribe in Africa. It works great in your westernized format... but God isnt an American.

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They give their best to Him. That's what The Lord expects from us. They realize what is at stake which is far more than I see in the contemporary way here in our post modern church, purpose driven, church. Can it be said that is being by imitating the Rolling Stones or any other group?


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Ormly, Ormly, Ormly... I must say you have an interesting way of looking at things!

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They give their best to Him. That's what The Lord expects from us. They realize what is at stake which is far more than I see in the contemporary way here in our post modern church, purpose driven, church. Can it be said that is being by imitating the Rolling Stones or any other group?

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And you know they give their best? How? You're telling me , that you absolutely know their hearts and can judge their way of worship, how?? Wow! So, like, are you God?

Why bring up the argument of imitating other bands?? That is such a weak argument! Do you know that the Rolling Stones immitated some styles from bands before them and the bands before them immitated the bands before them, and so on and so on??? It is a pathetic argument. We could trace immitation all the way back to Genesis 4, whom, by the way, were followers of God! Everything today is an immitation of sorts of things past!!!

You can't argue your legalistic viewpoint, because by your examples, they show limitations on the way God can be glorified through His created. There are multiple upon multiple ways God has been worshiped all throughout time and you are judging it all based upon your narrow viewpoint on what you yourself interpret!

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Can a heart issue by way off? I don't think so.

Ormly wrote:

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Worship of God isn't a time to be creative.


got all the coffee mugs and tee shirts.

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Wow, so how did you get your way of worship? Didn't someone have to be creative for you to desire your way of worship? Oh, wait, no you are the originator of worship style to God and everyone has to follow exactly how you worship without any creative style whatsoever! I get it!