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Christinyou
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"May your experience with the Jewish biblical culture capture your head, heart, hands and feet in total commitment to God. May the cultural message of the Text encourage and equip you to love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul and all your strength."

Are we supposed to go back into the Jewish biblical context of who we are and what we are?
If we allow the Jewish culture to capture our head, heart, hands, and feet in total commitment to the Jewish culture we are missing the whole of the new commitment to Christ in us and the Leading of the Holy Spirit. The Jewish culture and their way of worship is totally outward and ours is totally inward. We cannot mix one with the other. We can separate the two and the old will help us understand what we are not to do. But the New in Christ will teach us who we are in Christ by His Work, not by the work of the Hebrew nation of Israel. God has not dealt with Israel since the temple was destroyed in A.D. 70 and He will not deal with them again until Christ is setting on David's Throne in the New Jerusalem on this earth, completely obliteration the old and the New coming down from Heaven to rule the nations for 1000 years.

Romans 9:30-33 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

We cannot go back into Israel and who they were, for we are a new race of people: 2Cr 5:17 Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Let us not go back into bondage. Gal 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
We must no go back into bondage and Make Israel or any worship of any Jewish kind to be our worship; our worship is in Christ, new creatures that worship Him in Spirit and Truth. Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

Rom 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

We are not blessed by going back to Jewish worship practices, we are blessed in Christ in heavenly places and that is our worship.
Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:
Not blessed us with earthly blessings in Israel and the worship practiced of old, it cannot get us to anyplace but to this earth then we are of our Father the Devil who is the one that destroyed earthly worship and it will be very plain when he is standing in the old temple and the whole world will bow down to him or they will die. Eph 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:
This is our worship, in Christ, in Love as He has commanded us. Ephesians 1:10-14 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

If we pass this new creation race of people and go back into the old we are not new creatures but trying to be new by using the old to make us presentable to God for our salvation.

Ephesians 2:11-14 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

The middle was was the first inner wall inside the temple where the outer court of the gentiles were to worship. They could not even approach the outer temple court for the Jews with facing death. This middle wall was taken down and now it does not matter, gentile or Jew, there is only one Way to the heavenly temple and that is in Christ. We can come boldly to the Throne of Grace and be directly in the presence of God Himself with our High Priest in us and able not because of Israel or any other earthly tabernacle, to be in the presence of God the Father because of His Son that is in us, birthed, born again, living in heavenly places in Christ Jesus in spirit and in Truth. How must we be Born Again? By the Seed of the Father birthed in us which is Christ Jesus our Lord and new life, making us new creatures that no one else has ever seen, not even the angles in heaven who wait for the revealing of the son's of God. Phl 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
WE are not proselyted circumcised Jews, we have no confidence in the flesh, we are new creatures in Christ Jesus. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

What are we waiting for? 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

In Christ: Phillip



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