Been there my dear brother, I don't just use one scripture, I use them all. Lets use them all.I could write on this subject forever, but I don't want to waste your time if your not interested in knowing something that will make you free.There are millions of Christians who follow the traditional theory of the endtime teachings, all the cults follow a similiar outcome even the world has their nostrodamus that even Christians have embraced as some prophet.Very few know this way, in fact most of those who are long since died in centuries past could tell us that these events that we speak today were and are in the past.The history of the Rapture theory is based upon a young woman in our recent history by the name of Margaret MacDonald from Scotland who prophsied in the early part of the 1900 this teaching that all the church world accepts as truth. But before this teaching there was the belief that all these things that were prophesied by the prophets concerning Jesus and His times and the Jewish people all happened back then.But just as Jesus said to His audience in His day, "You make void the scriptures because of your traditions." Shall I continue or not?Karl
Karl, did you say anything yet about when do we get "resurrected" ? As Paul spoke of ....1Co 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 1Co 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 1Co 15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 1Co 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 1Co 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 1Co 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 1Co 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 1Co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 1Co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Hi Karl,Hoping to bounce off of Annies question here;
Karl, did you say anything yet about when do we get "resurrected" ? As Paul spoke of ....
The number one problem is visually seeing it happen. The Kingdom of God would not come by observation, the Kingdom of God is within you and I. Jesus Christ is that Kingdom and He came in His Kingdom, in us.
I realize that I am rocking the boat, but we must realize too that God has been restoring the church since the reformation. The word was not lost, but the experince of that word was. When the reformation started the truth that was restored to the church was the "The Just Shall Live By Faith" was herelded. That went on until the restoration of the first doctrine of baptism when people were submerged and not just the sprinkling of Rome. Hebrews 6 has these foundational truths. The second baptism to be restored was the Baptism of the holy Ghost in the early part of the 20th century. Than the powers of God in the gifts of the spirit were restored, thru the laying on of hands. Guess whats next to be restored to the church? "Resurrection"! it was once experinced, it shall be again. Does anyone believe that? "Let us move on to perfection".
Brother Mike said
the difficulty I have found is in want of explanation of what is to be expected from where we now stand.
Brother Mike said:
There is a whole host of other questions raised
Every Christian on the face of the planet would like to know what is happening today and what will happen tomorrow. Preterists have the same desire as you do, however, their desire is also to place fulfilled scripture in its proper place.
Is it the idea that the world will gradually become better and better, due to the saints overtaking if I may put it that way?
In this perspective is there no expectation that the Lord will return physically to reign and rule over the new heaven and new earth?