Received the following from Randy Alcorns ministry the other day and thought it better to separate it from the thread [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=9056&forum=48&post_id=&refresh=Go]End of the Spear[/url] and draw attention to it in isolation.

"[i]Randy asked me to send this request to you for prayer regarding the End of the Spear movie and the Chad Allen controversy. Many of you are no doubt aware of the controversy that surrounds the End of the Spear movie and the actor who plays Nate Saint, Chad Allen, who is a homosexual activist. Randy has found himself on the inside of this controversy talking with the principle parties involved on both sides of the issue. He was reluctant to get involved but because of the substantial amount of misinformation that is being passed around he felt he needed to address it. After long interactions with the primary parties related to this controversy (including hours of phone conversations and dozens of emails) he has put together a comprehensive response.

He’s asking that you would pray for Mart Green and Steve Saint and their families who have suffered incredible pain from the misinformation that has been dispersed over the internet. Prayer is also needed for Jason Janz who has been involved in the center of the controversy. Please also pray for Chad Allen and his exposure to the gospel through acting in this movie and for the many nonbelievers who will be attending the movie because of Chad Allen’s role.

To get a clear picture of what is involved, you can read the following two articles that are now posted at our website:"

Randy Alcorn’s response to the End of the Spear and Chad Allen Controversy[/i]: http://www.epm.org/articles/end_spear_response.html

[i]Mart Green (head of Every Tribe Entertainment, producer of End of the Spear) & Steve Saint answer questions[/i]: www.epm.org/articles/end_spear_chad_allen.html

Think it was a noble thing of Randy to get down into the muck and mire here, despite everything. I do hope this might serve as a future warning about jumping to conclusions and taking positions.

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Mike Balog

brethren
The Lord is certainly not ignorant of Chad Allen and his lifestyle and yet it was so that he played this part in the movie. if the Lord had wanted it any other way, it would have been so. it seems to me that this is a lesson for us to keep from running our mouths sometimes and to let God check us. i've not seen very many discussions get as emotionally charged as ones to do with homosexuality. it seems to me adultery and fornication are by far more rampant sins in the church which have done far more damage to families, congregations and indeed our witness and yet i've yet to see us on these boards get riled up about any of these things. i'm in no way condoning this sin because God doesn't condone it. yet there is much else the Lord doesn't condone which we don't pay much attention to.

i guess we all have aired how we feel, now let's seek the Lord earnestly on what to do.

Lord forgive us of our pride and compel us to repent. :cry:

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Farai Bamu

Hi Krispy,

How can you possibly hold Abraham solely responsible for that list of pains? Adam, [i]surely[/i], had more to do with it?

What's more, the love of God is such He sent the second Adam, to bring the first Adam back into fellowship with Him.

I've lived with the consequences of my actions, [u]and it isn't easy[/u], but, it was [i]there[/i] that God proved Himself to me [i][b]more[/b][/i] than any other - His compassion for me, and His Fatherhood towards me. I would never have known how deep He can reach, if He had not let me fall so low.

My favorite part of the one article is where it quotes Paul in Philippians that says whether the gospel is preached in pretense or sincerity, he will rejoice that the gospel is preached.

I saw this movie Friday night with my fiance, and boy, must I say I was delighted to do so. The movie had such a powerful demonstration of the self-giving sacrificial love of Christ and forgiveness. It had my fiance and I crying pretty good. Especially powerful was the martydom scene. The movie has encouraged me to go deeper in my walk with Christ, grown my heart for world missions, and makes me want to read the book, The Gates of Splendor, as well as see the actual documentry behind the movie.

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Jimmy H

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Jimmy H

Wait wait wait... what happened to asking people to clarify their statements before jumping all over them??

I can not even fathom how you got America involved in this. You conveniently misunderstood my point entirely. My point was that the ripples of Abraham's disobedience is felt today. God had a plan, and Abraham circumvented that plan... and we are still feeling the effects of it today. Especially in ISRAEL.

I only mentioned gas prices because the Arabs control the world's economy. I mentioned Terrorism with ISRAEL in mind because 95% of the terrorism in the world happens in ISRAEL!! Thats the result of the disobedience of ABRAHAM.

I swear, its amazing how people misinterpret what others are saying on here. I know I am guilty of it as well... but gee-whiz people!

Before you scold me, ask me if perhaps you're misunderstanding me, or if perhaps I wasnt clear enough.

I think IRONMAN's comment that "if God wanted it another way it would have happened" comment is not necessarily correct. It's actually a neo-Calvinistic statement. It denies man's "freewill".

It's amazing how one post can be understood 20 different ways from upside down.

Does clarify it for everyone? Am I "outside the box" now? (I always was)

Krispy

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Diane

bro Krispy
i think this issue should be discussed elsewhere so that the theme of this thread isn't lost. we can talk privately if you wish but i'll start another thread on this perhaps.
love you too bro

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Farai Bamu