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Hi Greg and Ron

I will address your hypothetical question posed to me, thankyou for both of you leading me. The Lord has much to do.

In Christ
Jeff


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Jeff Marshalek

 2003/12/14 9:12Profile
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After going back and re-reading this original post, especially the latter part dealing with the email from "Kristin", if I counted correctly eight times the word "chose or choosen" is used.



Hello crsschk,

hehehe..it's Karsten. :-)


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Karsten Nordmo

 2003/12/14 19:35Profile
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Now all this will have steam coming from the ears of some of our forum.




Hello Philogos,

interesting how hypothetical responses are trying to be read-in, "steam", etc... :-) hehehe

KN



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Karsten Nordmo

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Philologos,

I would like to revisit this thread at a later date. (At the present time, I don't have a computer)

there were a couple of serious misrepresentations in there

Karsten


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Karsten Nordmo

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Hi Karsten,

Unless you are pulling my leg, the part I was refering to was in the original post from you (Karsten) in the body of text from John Piper, towards the end discussing the email from "Kristen"...unless that was you and that is a typo?!?

I can be gullible so.... ;-)


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Mike Balog

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 Re: Particular Redemption (Limited Atonement)

Spurgeon is my favourite Calvinist; his love for Christ and his passion for souls was very great.(and his sense of humour was delightful) If anyone could pursuade me it would be Spurgeon. "Mr Spurgeon, almost thou persuadest me.." but in the end I remain unconvinced.

However, I commend Spurgeon on Particular Redemption because I cannot imagine anyone preaching it with so much heart. He will even tell you how you may know if you are 'elected'. If you would like to hear 'Particular Redemption' from the purest source please give it a read.

It is remarkable that the Spurgeon who preached this sermon on Particular Redemption also said If sinners be dammed, at least let them leap to Hell over our bodies. If they will perish, let them perish with our arms about their knees. Let no one go there unwarned and unprayed for.

I have a lot of time for this kind of Calvinist. ;-)


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 2003/12/15 6:24Profile
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crsschk wrote:

ROFLOL ! why does the Lord use such strange ways to humble me ?

I wasn't pulling your leg, crsschk. That was a combination of quickly skimming through posts, multi-tasking, and being used to having Karsten (a male name) and Kirsten and Kristen (female names) confused

It's what I get for having a good chuckle about being mistaken for John Piper :-)

I hereby sentence myself to penance.

Kristen


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warmly and with hugs,
Kristen


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Karsten Nordmo

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namely that God 'unconditionally elected' the others to 'damnation'; this is likewise 'unconditional'



that would be blasphemy. A little snippet from Berkof's for clarification:

"This means that while it can be said that God is the author of the regeneration, calling, faith, justification, and sanctification of the elect and thus by direct action on them brings their election to realization, it cannot be said that He is also the responsible author of the fall, the unrighteous condition, and thus effects the realization of their reprobation....He did not predestinate some unto sin as He did others unto holiness. And as the Holy God, He cannot be the author of sin."

oodles of love,
Kristen


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Karsten Nordmo

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philologos wrote:


If you would like to hear 'Particular Redemption' from the purest source please give it a read.



Very good. Thanks, Philogos, and I appreciate the going to the source material.

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I have a lot of time for this kind of Calvinist. ;-)



oh, there are lots of those kind of Calvinists
:-)

W.P. Nicholson, Duncan Campbell, John Piper, Andrew Murray,

such a blessing they have been to the Church of Jesus Christ.

Looking for the mistletoe,
Kristen


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