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KingJimmy
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 Who's the Ravenhill of Today?

So, who is the Ravenhill of today?


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Jimmy H

 2003/12/9 20:55Profile
todd
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 Re: Who's the Ravenhill of Today?

I think Steve Hill.

 2003/12/9 22:50Profile
crsschk
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Hey Todd!

Long time no hear...

Could you elaborate? Have heard the name but not familar with him. Background, church, etc.


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Mike Balog

 2003/12/9 23:19Profile
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Steve Hill was the leader of the counterfeit revival in Pensacola, Florida.

He is far from being able to shine Ravenhill's shoes, in my opinion, and shouldn't even be mentioned with him.

 2003/12/9 23:48Profile
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Hey my friend,
Background (what I have gathered):
Born and raised (I believe) in Turkey. Became a junky and was dying of an overdose when he had a revelation of Jesus' saving power and was instantly delivered from drugs as he was brought into the kingdom of light. Got into Teen Challenge (Wilkerson's youth program) and was eventually mentored at Twin Oaks Acamdemy in Texas by people such as Ravenhill and Nicky Cruz (and I also suspect Wilkerson since it was founded by him). I heard that they would just take them all (the students) in vans into the worst part of town (Dallas I think) around 11 pm and drop them off and say "see you around 4." You likely found out real quick if you were called to be an evangelist. It seems he was.

Later he dwelt in the midst of the Argentina revival for about 7 years.

Then on Father's Day of 1995 he came to Pensacola, Florida (Brownsville Assembly of God) and the rest is history (i.e. the Brownsville Revival).

Church:
Like I said he came to Brownsville Assembly of God in '95 where he stayed for many years and still ministers there sometimes but he recently started a new church in Dallas that I believe is non-denominational.

 2003/12/9 23:50Profile
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Yes, I seem to recall a bit more now.
Sigh...Got the feeling that a can of worms is about to be opened...
:-D

Know that we have been down this path before in regards to Brownsville/Toronto and all that went on or is going on? So instead of rehashing covered ground, in what ways do you see the similarities between him and Leonard Ravenhill?



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Mike Balog

 2003/12/10 0:10Profile
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Steve Hill was the leader of the counterfeit revival in Pensacola, Florida.



I was a bit shocked to see the name mentioned myself. I've heard him preach a few times, and his messages were usually just ok. I'd hardly say he is a Ravenhill though.


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Jimmy H

 2003/12/10 6:46Profile
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"So instead of rehashing covered ground, in what ways do you see the similarities between him and Leonard Ravenhill?"

Ok. Since he was "taught" prayer (and it seems fathered in the Sprit) by Ravenhill, this is a good place to start. Hill has that "no-nonsense", rugged type of attitude and demeanor, like Ravenhill. He is how I might image Ravenhill at his age (which we don't see on this site). He is zealous and serious about the things of God.

He writes and reads poems. Here's an example for you taken from "Turn it Up!: Intense Heat from White Hot Revival"

"Everybody wants their name written down in glory. Everybody wants their name written down in heaven. Friend I do to. I want to go to heaven. But I want to tell you what I'm determined more than ever before in these days. I want my name somewhere else. I want my name on a list that really matters. I want my name on a list that causes all hell to look up. I want my name friend... Leonard Ravenhill used to say to us over and over again, he said 'Steve, I don't care if you're known from coast to coast. I don't care if they know you from England to Scotland, to China, to LA, Canada to Mexico. It makes no difference if you're headline news across the country. All that matters, Steve, is are you known in hell?..."
(then Steve elaborates some more on this and then recites his poem below...)

[b]Lucifer's List[/b]
There's a list, my friend, Hear it well.
That's penned in red in the pits of Hell.
It contains the names of the chosen few,
"Jesus I know, but who are you?"

This list of names is a horror, you see,
To the demons of darkness, they have to flee
From those who are written down in this book
They run so fast, not a second look.

These people are classified all by name,
It all began when to Christ they came.
Came to the Cross, looked at His face,
Repented of sins, received His grace.

It all began to make sense that day,
Convicted of sin, somthing's in the way
Between God and man, great distance be,
Who will close the gap for you and me?

His Son was sent, His Blood was shed,
For without the Blood, the Bible said,
There would be no pardon for mortal man.
A life must be given. It was God's plan.

On that fateful day, the die was cast,
The Lamb of God would be the last,
The last to bleed upon the ground,
For the sins of man, it would be sound.

The Blood, it dripped; the drops were heard
In the corridors of hell, not a word.
They trembled, they shook, as a cry came out.
"Forgive them, Father." Then came the shout,

"Eli, Eli, Lama, Sabacthani!"
He pierced the heavens with that fateful cry.
"My God! My God! You've forsaken me!"
Were the words of Jesus hanging on the tree.

Those words rang out for all to hear,
The Son of God, He loved so dear.
Sin separates, divides, keeps us from Him,
But now the gap was closing in.

The demons shook; what they feared the most
Was now reality to that cringing host.
The Lamb of God had opened the way
For you and me on that blessed day.

He died, was carried to the tomb,
But He only borrowd that vacant room.
For in three days, He would arise,
As the King, with the keys of Hell, fire in His eyes.

Time went by and a man named Saul
Was struck by God in the sight of all.
He cried out, "What do I do?"
That's all that mattered, his life was through.

Now he played a different part,
A man of God, Christ in his heart.
He blazed a trail, leading men to God.
Hell took notes while the road he trod.

There came a day when Sceva's seven sons
Were playing games with the Holy One.
They used His name like a wind-up key,
Hoping to score, win the victory.

The demons laughed, they roared in hell
At those foolish men, they knew them well.
Not as men of God, soldiers of the cross,
But as fools who played with the name of God.

Yes, there's a list, my friend; hear it well,
That's penned in red in the pits of hell.
It contains the names of the chosen few,
"Jesus I know, but who are you?"

Be a part, my friend, of this famous book,
The one down there, please take a look.
Are you written down? Better know it well.
It Lucifer's list; are you known in hell?
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If you like the words, do yourself a favor and listen to him recite it.

Doesn't this poem sound like something Ravenhill might write? At least the content is a sure match.

As far as I can tell they are very similar doctrinally, etc. They hold similar views.

Steve is a big collector of books. He preaches a fiery, repentance-based message. He was close to Ravenhill until his death and constantly refers to him.

So there's a start.

 2003/12/10 22:55Profile
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My 'OPINION' is Steve Hill is not even close to being todays Ravenhill.

I have heard and seen Steve Hill and heard and seen Len Ravenhill.

Len Ravenhill was a humble and broken man who was altogether other than this world. That does not mean I am saying Steve Hill is not broken but I see a big difference which maybe can't be explained with my words.

Also, just because Hill preaches an intense, fiery message and was mentored by Ravenhill doesn't mean you put him in the same camp as Ravenhill.

I wonder how many people who 'got saved' under Steve Hill are serving the Lord today verses Ravenhill. I wonder if the fear and excitement that Steve Hill stirs up in his messages is temporary.

These are just some of my thoughts.

In my opinion I would have to say David Wilkerson is more fitting. There may be many other men and women that God has hidden away for a season who He will raise up in these last days to be a vessel like Ravenhill was and still is.

May He breaak us and mold us and raise many of us up to be such a one.

God Bless,

Mike


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and was mentored by Ravenhill


I think this has already been stated somewhere else in the forums but steve hill was not mentored by ravenhill he was a student of his with other 10+ people. But I am sure he gleaned alot off the witness of his life.


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