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brentw
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 Will we ever see a holy church......??

Will USA ever see a holy church in lager number or will they stay smaller??? Now David Wilkerson church is larger....
And can a contemperary church be a holy church or does it appeal to much to flesh???


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Brent

 2005/12/19 14:54Profile
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 Re: Will we ever see a holy church......??

Times Square Church is a mega-church, at least in terms of numbers. It's probably not the only large church that preaches a straight word.

The goal of church is not to make it "successful" in the eyes of the world. Success-oriented churches often compromise to draw the followers.

I pray that there will be a birthing of true holiness churches throughout the land, regardless of the size.


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Ed Pugh

 2005/12/19 15:32Profile
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 Re: Will we ever see a holy church......??

If you only see the church as a physical ediface rather than the body of Christ that it is than you'll most likely never see what Christ has established for us.

What many experience appeals far too much to the flesh.

 2005/12/19 15:41Profile









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The church as it is referred to in the New Testament is NOT a congregation in Times Square, or at Saddleback, or down by the river...

The Church is all of Christ's true followers.

So to answer your question... you'll see a holy church in America as soon as you yourself are holy.

What does holy mean? Seperated and set apart. We tend to mix the words holy and sanctified together. Most think holy means "near-perfect". If you are seperated unto God, and set apart from this world... then you are holy.

Much of what we consider to be the "church" is not the church at all, but a collection of wordly people who think they are believers, but do not have any desire to follow Christ. That is why scripture says:

Mat 7:13-14 [i]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and [b]many[/b] there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and [b]few[/b] there be that find it.[/i]

Also in Matthew 25 Jesus talks about the many who will come to Him and declare that they had done many marvelous things in His Name, believing that they were Christians... and His response was:

[i]"Depart from me, [b]ye cursed[/b], into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"[/i]

There is a holy church in America. It consist of those who truly believe and who are following His Word everyday.

Krispy

 2005/12/20 11:16
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AMEN Krispy :-)


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Brent

 2005/12/20 11:27Profile
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 Re: Will we ever see a holy church......??

I can not comment because of this plank in my eye.


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David Michael Paul

 2005/12/22 21:28Profile
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KrispyKrittr wrote:
The church as it is referred to in the New Testament is NOT a congregation in Times Square, or at Saddleback, or down by the river...
The Church is all of Christ's true followers.
Krispy



Now I knew that! :-P
By the way I got you a nice #24 Dupont shirt and hat for Christmas were should I send it?
O forgot you probably will have to tell me that in answer in a PM. :-? :-P


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Mr. Bill

 2005/12/22 21:48Profile
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Absolutely true!

Quote:
KrispyKrittr wrote:
The church as it is referred to in the New Testament is NOT a congregation in Times Square, or at Saddleback, or down by the river...

The Church is all of Christ's true followers.


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Jonathan Veldhuis

 2005/12/23 11:27Profile
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CyberCarbon wrote:
I can not comment because of this plank in my eye.



Plank? I can not comment because of this California Redwood in mine. :-P


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Mr. Bill

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