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 What Al-Quaeda wants...

I was reading an artcile about the war and stumbled onto this line, which just stunned me, AND chilled my blood:

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And however extreme and repugnant Al Qaeda's methods, its revolutionary goals were by no means unusual within Islamist opposition groups throughout the Muslim world. "If there is one overarching goal they share," wrote the authors of the Defense Science Board report, "it is the overthrow of what Islamists call the 'apostate' regimes: the tyrannies of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Jordan and the gulf states.. . .The United States finds itself in the strategically awkward - and potentially dangerous - situation of being the longstanding prop and alliance partner of these authoritarian regimes. Without the U.S., these regimes could not survive. Thus the U.S. has strongly taken sides in a desperate struggle that is both broadly cast for all Muslims and country-specific."




how does this kind of stuff happen?

Why doesn't anyone listen to Jesus?

the url for the article

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/11/magazine/11OSAMA.html?pagewanted=all

 2005/9/13 22:46









 Re: What Al-Quaeda wants...

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how does this kind of stuff happen?




Oil...

Which is why we need to tap our own oil, or find alternatives, and let the middle east choke on it.

Also, we have a strong alliance with Israel, which is the the real reason we are so hated.

The oil thing can be dealt with, but we should never turn our backs on Israel.

As long as we align with Israel we will have a big bullseye on our foreheads. We dont have to agree with everything Israel does, but turning our backs on God's people would be wrong.

Krispy

 2005/9/14 11:15
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The current nation of Israel is not God's Chosen, but the Jews are. Today is not the restoration of the kingdom; the current state is corrupt.
Yr right, we must honor God's chosen people, but in the context that Christ spelled out when asked when He'd restore the kingdom. And yes, our chosen US policy puts a huge target on us.

We will not find a good solution to our oil needs because of our greed and hatred. Drilling in ANWR but not offshore of Jeb Bush's voting block is bad policy...

I am not defending Jihad; it is an abomination. But Jonathan Pollard and his supporters here and in the Holy Land are an example of the evil being directed towards our nation. ;-)

 2005/9/14 11:45Profile









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The current nation of Israel is not God's Chosen, but the Jews are. Today is not the restoration of the kingdom; the current state is corrupt.



Uhmmm... seems to me that a simple survey of the OT would show that the State of Israel has always had problems with corruption. Not sure why we would expect it to be different now.

Krispy

 2005/9/14 11:49
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Good take!
But... won't that just make it more obvious when it is here?
Yr likely correct; it's not something to be flippant about; better safe than sorry. But I keep thinking about that fig tree...

 2005/9/14 11:58Profile
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 Re: What Al-Quaeda wants...

Doesn't the name Al-Quaeda mean "The word?"

As far as apostate religion, the OT gives many examples of God calling on the Israel to remove the idols and those who practiced spiritual adultery.

Islam has it roots in the OT. It is not surprising that they too would hate all the outward manifestations of sin in their region of the world. The United States is the purveyor of all kinds of abominations that come with our presence there.

Look at what has happen in Afghanistan. Once the Taliban were kicked out heroin production sky rocketed.

I remember seeing news clips of Iraqi men seeking pornography once the U.S toppled that regime.

What is the content of U.S. television? Many of us in this country will not watch tv because of the vile passions of sex and murder that are marketed to our population and throughout the world.

U.S. nationalism is a religion unto itself. The pride of country blinds many with the wine of fornication from the seductress.

This is not an endorsement of Al-Queada. But doesn't it prick the hearts of those who profess to be Christians on Sunday and live for the things of this world every other day.
Muslims are willing to die for what they believe to be the truth. They are willing to stamp out the manifestations of all type of sin surrounding them. Yet they have no God. We who profess to have the Spirit indwelling in us show very little evidence that our God is holy.

In Christ
Jeff


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Jeff Marshalek

 2005/9/14 12:29Profile
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Hi...!

"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee." Psalm 122:6

:-)


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Christopher

 2005/9/14 14:14Profile
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Rookie
I was somewhat alarmed at your post sounds like your taking sides with the Al-Queda somewhat. Lets remember why the U.S. is fighting this fight, do your remember the twin towers? All the innocent lives murdered there? Thats what they want to do to you and your family! I think its a good idea to get them first. Sure America is not prefect, but at least we not trying to blow up airliners into buildings full of civilians and cutting the throats of stewardesses and pilots to crash the airliner. Afghanistan has been a major grower/producer of poppies for heroin for decades. Please dont start sideing with them, the world is a mess, just read the gospel accounts of the end times, its not the U.S. fault. And by the way if you talk to your local gang member in the inner city whereever you live, he or she is also willing to die for the hood, sure doesn't make it a good thing.
Carl

 2005/9/15 0:13Profile
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 Re: I have heard once that Islam may have its route in defective christianity

What I have read along time ago is that during the Dark Ages when writing and reading were minimal,
All the british scholars went over to the middle east.Because they could make no leway here so they christianised the culture but I think they twisted it abit and ended up today as Islam.
Islam is not christianity !!
One thing if you ever talk to Muslims ask them about the period of Ignorance? This is a time when they had no God!
A country Turkey used to be a christian country but got taken out by Muslims.
I also asked one of my friends along time about Israel they liturally want it off the face of the planet!! They dont like Israel because Israel reminds them that is a God that is why all other nations do not want to exist because that proves that the Bible is real and that God is real and they cannot deny that!! I have eaten to much choclate forgive me for bein stupid Lord!!
In the Bible it says that times will get worse but we have a saviour who will get us through it


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 2005/9/15 14:54Profile
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Brother Carl wrote:

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Sure America is not prefect, but at least we not trying to blow up airliners into buildings full of civilians and cutting the throats of stewardesses and pilots to crash the airliner.



This is true. The terrorists do not have the means to do what nations do to other nations. If I may draw an analogy to what I am trying to bring forth.

A bank robber steals ten thousand dollars from a bank. If he is caught he spends 10, 20, or 30 years in prison. A CEO of a corporation can steal 100 million and be proven guilty yet society does not look upon his crime as it does upon the bank robber. The princes of this world destroy and murder those they do not even know.

James 5:

1 Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. 4 Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. 5 You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you.

The princes of this world destroy through the manipulation of currencies. The princes of this world destroy through keeping back the wages so that they can live in luxury. This story was present in the times of Amos and it is present in these last days.

Why does America need to be in Iraq? Why does America need to be in Afganistan? Why is America concerned with Venezuela? Why has America sent troops to Nicaragua 9 times in the last 100 years? Why?

The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. The evil we see today is the result of unrighteousness.

Study Scripture, it is given as an example so that we might not fall as others did before us. God gave rest to the nation of Israel during the faithful generations. God surrounded the nation of Israel with the adversary during the unfaithful generations.

What generation do we live in, faithful or unfaithful?

In Christ
Jeff


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