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8. Mature men bring maturity. Leaving the sheep to find their own way displays lack of love and insight into the laws of spiritual growth. ”What you have heard from me, entrust it to faithful men.” - 2 Tim 2:2. Hype generates hype. Immaturity never produces maturity. You become like the ones you befriend. You become like the one you worship, Ps 115:8, 2 Cor 3:18.
Prosperity prophets dare to offend the little ones. Forthtellers speak up for the sake of healing and comfort. Forthtellers come to the defence of the weak. Forthtellers shut the mouth of a soothsayer.

There is a prophetic war going on. The Babylonian hype and confusion is to be judged in the end time. The vanity prophets even dare to reinterpret the book of Revelation, trying to overrule and overcome the very prophesies of Jesus for the sake of securing a greater and brighter future ruled by themselves. A true prophet heals, prophets bring safety and dignity by speaking up amidst the Babylonian golden hype.


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Lars Widerberg

 2003/11/13 3:37Profile
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9. The doctrines of a vanity prophet are to be split in three main sections. He stands for infallibility. As he is commissioned, a man of God, he cannot and need not be corrected. He has chosen not to listen. Romans 8:2 is one of his favourite words, and he uses it as a shield. There is no condemnation for the ones in Christ - do not touch the anointed. Made righteous in his spirit, his outer actions can be taken lightly. He is a holy spirit living in a body. As he is holy he cannot be touched. The ones speaking up against him must belong to the enemy camp.
This brings us to the next section. Because the vanity prophet is a righteous spirit - a super human - having become like God, he also holds authority similar to God’s. Certainly, a Christian holds authority, but never on his own. The true Christian never act on his own - he is safely and obediently positioned under authority.


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Lars Widerberg

 2003/11/13 14:55Profile
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10. Thirdly, these supermen, belonging to a new breed, holds power over all things by faith, by christianised mind over matter techniques. They hold on to a devastating, a very unchristian power doctrine which places them among spiritists and new-agers. This is the gnostic prophet.

One writer has the following to say about the Greek word hubris: ”Its root is the violent overstepping of the mark, the insolence of triumph, and the pride of life that tramples under foot the unwritten laws of God and men. Hubris is the closest Greek equivalent for ”sin”. Its most characteristic application was to the insatiable thirst for power which drives a man or a nation headlong, as though possessed by a demon, on the path of unbridled self-assertion. This blinding passion, outraging alike personal liberty and public law, lures the victim in a frenzy of self-confidence towards destruction.”

The basic evil of hubris is that when it enters into a man’s heart, that man forgets that he is a creature and that God is the Creator. Hubris is the sin whereby a man forgets his humanity and makes himself equal with God. Hubris is that insolent arrogance which forgets the essential creatureliness of the condition of being a man. Hubris and hype walk hand in hand in these our modern societies.


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Lars Widerberg

 2003/11/14 16:29Profile
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11. The forthteller makes a man able to stand with his two feet on the ground facing life. The forthteller brings proper perspective. The forthteller calls the people of God back to the Covenant. He brings them back the sobriety. Christians do not take sides with worldrulers, Eph 6: 12. Forthtellers gather Christian soldiers to fight against the Babylonian confusion.

Vanity prophets present and represent corrupted optimism. Their message is always one of God’s mercy even if the nation exposes and displays utter depravity. They always find something good about the nation, bringing it forth as a solemn sacrifice, as a peace offering to silence the anger of God. Theirs is a message of peace and prosperity amidst depravity and spiritual blindness.

Gnostic prophecy produces empty speculations, 1 Tim 1:3-7. It is intellectually snobbish - dare to test it and the whip of slander will do its dance on your reputation. The union of the recognised issues a ban and you will be left out in the cold - count it as a true blessing. Prophets were never meant to form an upper class, out of reach, never listening. It is, by the way, a signature of the antichristian nature, I Joh 4: 6 - not willing to listen. The idea of a prophetic, intellectual aristocracy is falsehood.


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Lars Widerberg

 2003/11/15 12:20Profile
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12. The young Timothy was called to a tough task, left behind to instruct and command the vanity prophets of Ephesus not to teach strange doctrine. The Spirit explicitly declares that in later times there will be a falling away, an apostasy led by spiritistically inclined vanity prophets who pay attention to doctrines of demons, 1 Tim 4:1. The young men of today who have been found faithful - 2 Tim 2:2 - will by the grace and help of the Paracletos find courage and wisdom to speak up, paraggellein, and to act as forthtellers.

It is perhaps the young men who are called to the task of forthtelling in the end time. Jeremiah was a young man with eyes full of tears. It is the young men daring to live uncorrupted lives who will be able to confront the mind of a heretic. It is the young men who will move in with bravery, speaking up on issues on truth versus falsehood.

The young men who have not accepted the mind and nature of a heretic, who have said a firm ”no” to the desire for novelty will bring the final uncorrupted testimony of the Living God into the Babylonian society. The forthteller carries a rod of discipline and a staff of comfort. The forthtellers do not use swords, they read the Book. They are extremely careful as to symbols and idioms, never allowing Jezebel to put her mark of compromise on their belongings and work. They know what God plans to do and are able to mobilise the people to co-operation. A people lead by forthtellers never sits idly watching, allowing Christianity to entertain. Forthtellers stand on holy ground together with a people longing for holiness.

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Lars Widerberg

 2003/11/16 16:05Profile
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Dear friends,
I can almost hear the wind of rugged reality blow in these sentences. No sentimentality, but determination become flesh.
There is power here forcing men back to sobriety.
We are certainly close to the prophetic dimension while reading through this whole text.
Brother Terry


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Terry Lee

 2003/11/17 8:34Profile









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Terry,
Do we dare to suggest that it is a forthteller who wrote this whole thing?
I sometimes wonder...
Hanna

 2003/11/17 17:09
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You know, Hanna, I know brother Lars.
He is perhaps heading in the direction of a prophetic office.
But he would never allow anyone to put such a label on him.
Terry


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