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 Beware of Grace Killers - Shipp

Lee Shipp recently preached an outstanding message on New Covenant grace. It was preached on Sept 4th and you can find it on the First New Testament Church of Baton Rouge website, titled Beware of Grace Killers and Philosophers. Highly recommended.


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 Re: Beware of Grace Killers - Shipp

mp3 version here

https://www.fntchurch.org/resources/index.php?option=com_preachit&tmpl=component&id=741:beware-of-grace-killers-and-philosophers&view=studypopup


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 Re: Beware of Grace Killers - Shipp

Warning this is my attempt to transcribe part of it. Let me know if you see a mistake.

There's a passage in the book of Jude and it says in verse four, for there are certain men crept in unawares so they don't come announcing themselves. They just sneak in and they were before of old ordained to this condemnation.

They're ungodly men. And this is so important and I want you all to hear this turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ. And so we're told to be aware of this because certain men creep in there, ungodly men, they turn the grace of God into lasciviousness.

And basically what this is actually teaching is they turned the grace of God into something filthy and wanting or lacking as if God through his grace does not possess the power to bring holiness for grace, for the grace of God is never condoned sin, but always righteousness, but they have made the grace of God unholy in this regard that grace is not enough. There has to be more than grace in order for us to be Holy and sanctified and set apart and to truly be the people of God.

We also understand that there are people that may come into the church and may not have an understanding of grace and there might be those who would teach grace as a license to sin. And Paul had to deal with this in the book of Romans that grace is not a license to sin and he says, God forbid, it's just an, it's just an absurd thought, but yet that is the, that is the person we tend to revert to in Jude one verse four, that these are the ungodly men but not so they would be in that category of ungodly men but ungodly men as the new Testament bears out or the lawyers and the philosophers who cannot let go of Moses and they demand a life that is lived by self will in the ways of God that helps grace in your life become more perfect and more Holy because grace cannot do it.

Grace is wanting and grace is lacking and the Bible says these men also are ungodly and they creep in and they do great damage. As a matter of fact, it was these types of men that caused more damage in the new Testament times than any of the men who espoused grace was a license to sin that was easily and carefully dealt with. And we still hear this today.


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