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Jasmine
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@MrBillPro

Thank you for your response. Can you share with me where you've gotten your information regarding reparations?

 2019/6/27 22:19Profile
MrBillPro
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Jasmine..I have got my information/opinions "mostly" from family members, on both sides of my family, my side and my sister in laws side, and they all agree with this post I posted earlier in this thread.

Bill Said: "I'm not personally condoning or condemning reparations, what I am saying is, you have to be awful careful this day and age as I said, opening up a can of worms. Perfect example, Elizabeth Warren Comes Out In Support of ‘Gay Reparations? where does it stop? I personally believe it will never stop, every lawyer in this country will make sure of that. So just remember, once the can is opened up, people agreeing on reparations will be responsible in a way for all reparations afterwards. The atmosphere in America is perfect right now for this to happen, I can see it now, our children wanting reparations because their parents made them go to church, and believe in a God they never have believed in, where will it stop?"

Jasmine, do you not believe reparations for some, will not open up lawsuits for anyone, that might feel like their owed something, because of their past? Personally, I believe this will have a snowball effect, that may never end.


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Mr. Bill

 2019/6/27 22:53Profile
Jasmine
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@MrBillPro

Reparations for/against African Americans amongst African Americans has been going on for decades. For the younger generation it might be something new but for those of us over 50 it's not. It is interesting though reading up on various ethnic groups like the Jews and their ongoing reparations as well as Native Americans and Japanese Americans in getting a fuller understanding of what it meant to each group. When I read Elizabeth Warren's so called “reparations for gays”, it wasn't that at all. Instead it had do with a tax code, tax refund, and gay marriage. Calling it “reparations” was a way to “trigger” some people and it did just that. The only group that I could see trying to make a real bid for reparations would be white women because they're already considered a minority. They are also the biggest recipients of Affirmative Action.

 2019/6/28 0:42Profile
MrBillPro
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I read this morning that Reparations could carry a 17 trillion dollar price tag, yes, 17 trillion, that could probably pay for health care for the whole country for many years.


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Mr. Bill

 2019/6/28 8:37Profile
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What about "Vengeance is Mine," says the Lord, "I will repay"?

All of those slavemasters and victims have already passed into eternity. God is a righteous Judge, by no means clearing the guilty. The word "slave" comes from Slav; the Romans put Slavs to forced labor and servitude. Should modern Italy pay the Slavic nations reparations? The Israelites sojourned in Egypt for 400 years with much of it in grueling slavery. Should modern Egypt pay reparations to modern Israel? And I could cite Japan's atrocities against China and Korea in 20th century history, and on and on. What of all the inter-tribal atrocities committed in Africa across the millennia, not to mention cannibalism? Should the surviving Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda and Burundi pay each other reparations for all of the millions who were slaughtered in recent history?

There is no end to it. Yet our Lord taught us to pray, "Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." Christians should let all of the past offenses go, and cast our cares upon the Lord. The world pushes for reparations and other agendas, because the world does not trust God, but only sees "the here and now."

I am reminded of the young man who asked Jesus to force his brother to divide the family inheritance with him. Our Lord rebuked him, saying, "Man, who made Me a divider over you? Take heed and beware of covetousness, for a man's life consists not in the abundance of the things which he possesses."


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Alec

 2019/6/30 6:35Profile
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_21st-century_Islamism?wprov=sfla1
Where is the lefts concern for slavery that is happening today under Islam
It is like silent crickets such as the slavery that is going in Libya
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Libya?wprov=sfla1

I always never understood the verse in the Bible Revelation 19 as it mentions slavery

Revelation 18
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. note

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, note

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. note

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

We know there will be slavery right into the end of the age


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