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dohzman
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 Checking for counterfiets

I reciently posted a question that centered around Jesus only. There was no place for backbiting, bickering or even debating. That post only got 1 response, how sad. A dear friend of mine was telling me how the (American FBI) feds check for counterfiet bills. I asked him how DO they check to see if one's not real? His response was this: "what they do is study REAL currency, in so doing they will be able to spot easily the counterfiet bills".

Observation: I've seen an increased and unhealthy interest in the negative aspects of our common faith. This is what I mean. Sin, repentance, questioning ministers, and bandstanding ideals that are more worldily than godly. Now there is a need for some of these, however that seems to be the only thing we want to talk about. I believe that's unhealthy spiritually.

Like the FBI I believe we need to be looking more at the the geniune article and getting to know Him, aspects of His character , deeds, nature. Get into the very mind of Christ to really know what it is He's thinking, doing, saying. Then everything else will take care of itself. Let ALL THINGS be done to edifying one another. Love in Christ Bro. Daryl


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D.Miller

 2005/7/8 14:37Profile
ginnyrose
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 Re: Checking for counterfiets

This is my own testimony.

I used to be so concerned about how to be able to discern cultic thinking, or counterfiets, as you call it. So I studied the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. There I am gripped with the holiness of God and the sinfulness of man. As I study the prophets, I find their messages so timeless...what the people needed then, they need today. In other words, man has not changed and neither has God. Then I love to read Revelation. There we see Jesus in all his splender and glory! I am filled with awe and once again I am left feeling so little, unworthy. Jesus is so holy and how holy am I? only as holy as I allow the Holy Spirit to cleanse me, fill me and use me. And that is the rub.

Yes, studying the scriptures intently will teach us more then studying all the lit available on this issue. If there is a shortcut in acquiring knowledge, this is it.

This is my opinion based on my life's experiences.

ginnyrose


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Sandra Miller

 2005/7/9 6:11Profile
crsschk
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 Re: Checking for counterfiets

Hi Dohzman,

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Observation: I've seen an increased and unhealthy interest in the negative aspects of our common faith. This is what I mean. Sin, repentance, questioning ministers, and bandstanding ideals that are more worldily than godly. Now there is a need for some of these, however that seems to be the only thing we want to talk about. I believe that's unhealthy spiritually.



Thanks, same observance here. Many a good posting goes the wayside and gets overlooked and lost because these other things seem to have more of a draw, controversy, the easier to propound upon negative aspects... it does seem out of balance. More so, not as you well stated that they ought not be discussed, but what is going on back of it all?
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Like the FBI I believe we need to be looking more at the the geniune article and getting to know Him, aspects of His character , deeds, nature. Get into the very mind of Christ to really know what it is He's thinking, doing, saying. Then everything else will take care of itself. Let ALL THINGS be done to edifying one another. Love in Christ Bro. Daryl


Our hearts as well, our own character, what makes us so 'naturally' inclined towards the negative and topical, speculative?

I am with you brother, think it is unhealthy, what does this show the world? That we are just as they are clothed in Christian lingo?, but still bitting and devouring one another and pontificating on all the matters of the world or amongst ourselves over some things we will never have a clear understanding of while we are yet in these fallen states, though redeemed.

Think Zac Poonen speaks well to this, this morning. (link here in a moment)

Think I recall that post you mentioned, perhaps it may only be a few that will want to partake in it, but hope you are not persuaded to keep bringing these other things up to the saints brother, recall that it was off to a good start and see, even myself trying to get some perspective on the pulse of what is happening out in the main here, can get entangled, trying to untangle it all... :-?


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Mike Balog

 2005/7/9 9:37Profile
jeremyhulsey
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Amen! While it's necessary to expose and protect against the false, it is disheartening to see forums solely engaged in this. The most popular threads seem to be the ones that spark controversy and inspire everyone to "contend for the faith" while those simple "handmaiden" like threads simply concerned with devotion to Jesus Christ get hardly a viewing.

This is just a thought, but if we set our eyes upon Jesus and immersed ourselves in His word, not only would we produce tremendous devotion in our lives and have true bread to bring to the forums, but wouldn't this also, as a natural consequence, take care of the false teaching that is all around us?

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Turn your(King James Plural 8-) ) eyes upon Jesus
Look full in His wonderful face,
And the things of Earth will grow strangely dim
In the light of His glory and grace


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Jeremy Hulsey

 2005/7/9 11:40Profile
JaySaved
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Hello,
I am new here, but I wanted to comment on this topic because it has been a burden on my heart.

I wanted to share an all too familiar statistic:
At my home church,
We have 1200 members
500 attend on Sunday morning
150 attend on Sunday night
50 attend on Wednesday
5 show up for weekly witness/visitation program.

I pray to God about this and while I do not want to judge anyone, I can't help but be burdened by the number of people who have joined the church but have no desire for the church. I pray for a revival in this country that would shake complacent christians into repentance. I can speak first hand about this because I was complacent for a long time. Anyway, off my soapbox. I just want to encourage all of you to pray for God to move.

Thanks

 2005/7/11 21:15Profile
MrBillPro
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 Re:

Maybe we should have a new Lounge called the "Lift Up Only" Lounge, I believe I could live in there I always could use a little lifting up. :-P


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Mr. Bill

 2005/7/11 21:47Profile
jeremyhulsey
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Actually I think the whole forum can be that way. But remember, even correction can be uplifting. What is more comforting on a dangerous coastline to a sailor than a lighthouse that serves to WARN. King David said in the Psalms, "Let a righteous man smight me, I'll consider it a kindness." and "The wounds of a friend are faithfull."


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Jeremy Hulsey

 2005/7/11 21:52Profile
MrBillPro
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Hulsey wrote:But remember, even correction can be uplifting.



Can you please tell my 16 year old boy that. :-P


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Mr. Bill

 2005/7/11 22:03Profile
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 Well said

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Actually I think the whole forum can be that way. But remember, even correction can be uplifting. What is more comforting on a dangerous coastline to a sailor than a lighthouse that serves to WARN. King David said in the Psalms, "Let a righteous man smight me, I'll consider it a kindness." and "The wounds of a friend are faithfull."



Indeed, very well said Jeremy.

Psa 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.


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Mike Balog

 2005/7/12 0:27Profile









 Re: Well said

July, 2005
It seems this is just as applicable today as it was a couple years ago.

This is a wonderful little thread that I happened across while browsing through old threads. My thanks to the posters who contributed to this.

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Dohzman:
Like the FBI I believe we need to be looking more at the the geniune article and getting to know Him, aspects of His character , deeds, nature. Get into the very mind of Christ to really know what it is He's thinking, doing, saying. Then everything else will take care of itself. Let ALL THINGS be done to edifying one another. Love in Christ Bro. Daryl



Ginnyrose:
I used to be so concerned about how to be able to discern cultic thinking, or counterfiets, as you call it. So I studied the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. There I am gripped with the holiness of God and the sinfulness of man. As I study the prophets, I find their messages so timeless...what the people needed then, they need today. In other words, man has not changed and neither has God. Then I love to read Revelation. There we see Jesus in all his splender and glory! I am filled with awe and once again I am left feeling so little, unworthy. Jesus is so holy and how holy am I? only as holy as I allow the Holy Spirit to cleanse me, fill me and use me. And that is the rub.



JeremyHulsey:
Amen! While it's necessary to expose and protect against the false, it is disheartening to see forums solely engaged in this. The most popular threads seem to be the ones that spark controversy and inspire everyone to "contend for the faith" while those simple "handmaiden" like threads simply concerned with devotion to Jesus Christ get hardly a viewing.

This is just a thought, but if we set our eyes upon Jesus and immersed ourselves in His word, not only would we produce tremendous devotion in our lives and have true bread to bring to the forums, but wouldn't this also, as a natural consequence, take care of the false teaching that is all around us?



MrBillPro:
Maybe we should have a new Lounge called the "Lift Up Only" Lounge, I believe I could live in there I always could use a little lifting up.



JeremyHulsey:
Actually I think the whole forum can be that way. But remember, even correction can be uplifting. What is more comforting on a dangerous coastline to a sailor than a lighthouse that serves to WARN. King David said in the Psalms, "Let a righteous man smight me, I'll consider it a kindness." and "The wounds of a friend are faithfull."



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