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Joined: 2005/1/6
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Hemel Hempstead

 Wearying out the saints

Daniel 7:25 King James Version (KJV)
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

This may be a practical thing but it seems my time gets more and more filled with work so I can just survive and working later and later.

In the world we live as a Christian just surviving to get.
Just spending are pay packets just on basic things and not having much money for anything else.

Dominic Shiells

 2019/2/7 6:48Profile

Joined: 2017/7/14
Posts: 1062
Snoqualmie, WA

 Re: Wearying out the saints

Hi Dom: Youre saying out loud what others no doubt are feeling and saying to themselves.

How about this?

You and I both go out and plant, or water or harvest, but we go out. We cease complaining at least for the moment that there is so little salt...we are that salt so let's salt everywhere. We are lights, so lets be light everywhere.

The alternative is we become what we complain about, we live exactly like what is causing the declension in faith and practice.

If God wants to do more, then he in his wisdom will work all things after the counsel of his own will. We on the other hand should go to work based on the counsel of his word.

I encourage you brother to live and speak and be the answer. I know for certain unless I do what I am telling you nothing will happen.

God tells us to go preach the gospel, so if we don't go, who's to blame? Surely it cant be our apathetic brothers and sisters...It has to be us, both of us. No one is twisting my arm to keep silent, or to give up hope, or to feel we are abandoned by God. We are not.

Truth us brother, difficult times require an exercise of faith against all that depression of spirit we feel.

I'd rather be one of God's men that walked in faith...and like Noah only 8 got least some did. Like the prophets of old signal failures as to numbers and splashy results but the ultimate winners in that they remained faithful to God's call upon them. Their numerical failures are only made by comparison to failed evangelical practices that you yourself quoted...prophets that speak peace when doom approaches.

Go out and win one Dom, give God no rest until he has given to you a part of the harvest for the glory of Jesus Christ.
Then move on to another.

This same advice and counsel I give to myself, I point no fingers at you or anyone, I point all of them at myself. But in doing that, I know the answer is repentance from believing I am defeated, the Church is defeated and for that matter God is defeated insofar as He seems to have let his own Church go to the dumps.

We are part of that Church Dom, lets remind ourselves there are yet Calebs out there, who knows, time will tell that maybe as the battle continues a long time we will still be strong and able to obtain the inheritance God has planned for us?


 2019/2/7 11:21Profile

Joined: 2012/7/22
Posts: 83


Here, here brother Marvin!

Super encouraged by your post!

Definitely know what you mean too, dear brother Dom!

Let us not grow weary in doing good.....

Love all you saints SO MUCH!


 2019/2/7 11:44Profile

Joined: 2012/2/8
Posts: 5305


Yes Dom your posts of late are depressing but only because I know exactly what you are saying and I find myself miring down in the mud.

But, who ARE you? WHO ARE WE? If this list doesn't get you pumped up, then I don't know what will! We are not a bunch of wimps-- we are CHRISTIANS! Let's not ever forget what that means. We need to have confidence in the reality of who we are. Satan, the filthy liar that he is, tries to convince us that the following statements don't apply to us. HOGWASH! If you are a born-again believer, this is WHO YOU ARE-- even if you don't feel like it. Read through these... accept them. As you accept them and really believe them, your life will begin to line up accordingly. Believe me I have to read this list on a regular basis.

In Christ:

I am faithful (Ephesians 1:1)

I am God's child (John 1:12)

I have been justified (Romans 5:1)

I am Christ's friend (John 15:15)

I belong to God (1 Corinthians 6:20)

I am a member of Christ's Body (1 Corinthians 12:27)

I am assured all things work together for good (Romans 8:28)

I have been established, anointed and sealed by God (2 Corinthians 1:21-22)

I am confident that God will perfect the work He has begun in me (Philippians 1:6)

I am a citizen of heaven (Philippians 3:20)

I am hidden with Christ in God (Colossians 3:3)

I have not been given a spirit of fear, but of power, love and self-discipline (2 Timothy 1:7)

I am born of God and the evil one cannot touch me (1 John 5:18)

I am blessed in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing (Ephesians 1:3)

I am holy and blameless (Ephesians 1:4)

I am adopted as his child (Ephesians 1:5)

I am given God's glorious grace lavishly and without restriction (Ephesians 1:5,8)

I am in Him (Ephesians 1:7; 1 Corinthians 1:30)

I have redemption (Ephesians 1:8)

I am forgiven (Ephesians 1:8; Colossians 1:14)

I have purpose (Ephesians 1:9 & 3:11)

I have hope (Ephesians 1:12)

I am included (Ephesians 1:13)

I am sealed with the promised Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13)

I am a saint (Ephesians 1:18)

I am salt and light of the earth (Matthew 5:13-14)

I have been chosen and God desires me to bear fruit (John 15:1,5)

I am a personal witness of Jesus Christ (Acts 1:8)

I am God's coworker (2 Corinthians 6:1)

I am a minister of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:17-20)

I am alive with Christ (Ephesians 2:5)

I am raised up with Christ (Ephesians 2:6; Colossians 2:12)

I am seated with Christ in the heavenly realms (Ephesians 2:6)

I have been shown the incomparable riches of God's grace (Ephesians 2:7)

God has expressed His kindness to me (Ephesians 2:7)

I am God's workmanship (Ephesians 2:10)

I have been brought near to God through Christ's blood (Ephesians 2:13)

I have peace (Ephesians 2:14)

I have access to the Father (Ephesians 2:18)

I am a member of God's household (Ephesians 2:19)

I am secure (Ephesians 2:20)

I am a holy temple (Ephesians 2:21; 1 Corinthians 6:19)

I am a dwelling for the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 2:22)

I share in the promise of Christ Jesus (Ephesians 3:6)

God's power works through me (Ephesians 3:7)

I can approach God with freedom and confidence (Ephesians 3:12)

I know there is a purpose for my sufferings (Ephesians 3:13)

I can grasp how wide, long, high and deep Christ's love is (Ephesians 3:18)

I am completed by God (Ephesians 3:19)

I can bring glory to God (Ephesians 3:21)

I have been called (Ephesians 4:1; 2 Timothy 1:9)

I can be humble, gentle, patient and lovingly tolerant of others (Ephesians 4:2)

I can mature spiritually (Ephesians 4:15)

I can be certain of God's truths and the lifestyle which He has called me to(Ephesians 4:17)

I can have a new attitude and a new lifestyle (Ephesians 4:21-32)

I can be kind and compassionate to others (Ephesians 4:32)

I can forgive others (Ephesians 4:32)

I am a light to others, and can exhibit goodness, righteousness and truth (Ephesians 5:8-9)

I can understand what God's will is (Ephesians 5:17)

I can give thanks for everything (Ephesians 5:20)

I don't have to always have my own agenda (Ephesians 5:21)

I can honor God through marriage (Ephesians 5:22-33)

I can parent my children with composure (Ephesians 6:4)

I can be strong (Ephesians 6:10)

I have God's power (Ephesians 6:10)

I can stand firm in the day of evil (Ephesians 6:13)

I am dead to sin (Romans 1:12)

I am not alone (Hebrews 13:5)

I am growing (Colossians 2:7)

I am His disciple (John 13:15)

I am prayed for by Jesus Christ (John 17:20-23)

I am united with other believers (John 17:20-23)

I am not in want (Philippians 4:19)

I possess the mind of Christ (I Corinthians 2:16)

I am promised eternal life (John 6:47)

I am promised a full life (John 10:10)

I am victorious (I John 5:4)

My heart and mind is protected with God's peace (Philippians 4:7)

I am chosen and dearly loved (Colossians 3:12)

I am blameless (I Corinthians 1:8)

I am set free (Romans 8:2; John 8:32)

I am crucified with Christ (Galatians 2:20)

I am a light in the world (Matthew 5:14)

I am more than a conqueror (Romans 8:37)

I am the righteousness of God (2 Corinthians 5:21)

I am safe (I John 5:18)

I am part of God's kingdom (Revelation 1:6)

I am healed from sin (I Peter 2:24)

I am no longer condemned (Romans 8:1, 2)

I am not helpless (Philippians 4:13)

I am overcoming (I John 4:4)

I am persevering (Philippians 3:14)

I am protected (John 10:28)

I am born again (I Peter 1:23)

I am a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17)

I am delivered (Colossians 1:13)

I am redeemed from the curse of the Law (Galatians 3:13)

I am qualified to share in His inheritance (Colossians 1:12)

I am victorious (1 Corinthians 15:57)


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