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AbideinHim
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 Do Christians Need to Confess Their Sins?

I was shocked the other day when I heard a well known teacher, that I really think a lot of, that made the statement that Jesus died for all of our sins: past, present, and future, and that it is not necessary for a Christian to confess his sins.

This teacher's goal was to set Christians free from sin consciousness, but the Word of God is very clear on this issue. "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."(1 John 1:8-10).

There is another popular teacher that is teaching that 1 John 1:9 was not written to Christians but to unbelievers.

This is a very dangerous and erroneous teaching. The Holy Spirit will always convict us of our sin which breaks our fellowship with God. Our confession of sin and repentance restores our fellowship with God, and now we are no longer walking in darkness, but in the light, where the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin.


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 Re: Do Christians Need to Confess Their Sins?

Mike:

I heard that statement as well and it did shoot up a red flag as soon as he said it. There are things in that series that I have gleaned some useful insight from however the verse that came to mind as soon as he said it was in James where he tells us to confess our faults one to another that we may be healed.

As for 1John 1:9 not being meant for Christians, I thought the whole bible was written to believers? Is it not written by the faithful to the faithful? Isn't the bibles audience believers?

I am not saying unbelievers can't read the bible or that verses like 1John1:9 would not also apply to them.

I have had some caution me about this particular minister but there are a lot of things he says I agree 100% with while other things he says just don't sit well. My attitude at this point is to eat the hay and spit out the briars.


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 Re: Do Christians Need to Confess Their Sins?

Hi Mike,

Did Jesus not die for ALL your sins on Calvary's Cross?
Did He only die for your past sins?
What about your present sins?
What about your future sins?
Does Christ need to be sacrificed all over again for them?
Daily?
As in the Old Covenant?
What is the BETTER Covenant?

Would not the worshippers have been made perfect in conscience if the Old Covenant sacrifices were able to TAKE AWAY sins, and those sacrifices would have ceased to be offered because "the worshippers having ONCE been cleansed would no longer have had consciousness of sins?" It was impossible for THOSE sacrifices to take away sins. There was always a reminder; always a consciousness of sins (Hebrews 10).

"But He (Christ) having offered ONE sacrifice for sins FOR ALL TiME
SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD. For by ONE offering He has PERFECTED FOR ALL TIME those who are sanctified."

I encourage you ro spend time in the Letter to the Hebrews especiallly Chapters 9 and 10. I lived many many years under the consciousness of my sins, repenting all day long for everything I thought, said, and. did, desiring to live for and please God. A miserable existence that caused me to cry out to God "Where is the joy? Where is the peace? I don't even know if I am saved." He met me in my despair and revealed Christ on the Cross to me.

The iniquity of us all has been laid on Him (Isaiah 53).
So GREAT salvation ✝️ 🙌
💜 Mary


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“Did Jesus not die for ALL your sins on Calvary's Cross?
Did He only die for your past sins?
What about your present sins?
What about your future sins?
Does Christ need to be sacrificed all over again for them?
Daily?
As in the Old Covenant?
What is the BETTER Covenant”

Hi Mary,
Yes Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, and that is past, present, and future sins.

We are indeed living under a better covenant with better promises, and by the one sacrifice of Christ on the cross the price for our sins has been paid in full.

There is no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus, but there is conviction.

My question to you is this:
Do Christians still sin?
Are Christians required under the New Covenant to confess and repent of their sins?


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Hi Mike,

Honestly, in light of present day Christendom, I have struggled to answer your question.

I see Christians as those who "...were FORMERLY darkness but now you are light in the Lord"..." who FORMERLY walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience " "Among them too we all FORMERLY lived...." "....such WERE some of you but you have been washed."

In light of John's letters to the church, my question is "WHY are professing Christians sinning?" "No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him." "No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed [Christ] abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious; anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother."

I think the NORMAL Christian life is one of always abhorring and turning away from sin because the HOLY Spirit is in us. And IF one sins ... and I think it should only be an IF...there remains THE sacrifice. Father, I thank you that this sin has already been paid for on Calvary. I am FORGIVEN.

It would like to add....I lived many years in and out of His presence. I'm in His presence,...oops a bad thought or comment...back out...repenting, pleading the blood..:back in. Oops another wrong word or action ..:back out. In and out ... in and out...constantly repenting all day long. There came a day where I SAW that it wasn't what i did but what I AM that was the problem. I AM a sinner and I repented for what I AM and now because I am COVERED by HIS blood and robe of righteousness I am ALWAYS in His presence. I have come in by the New and Living Way never to go out again. 🙌🙌🙌 Everthing is open and laid bare before the eyes of Him with Whom we have to do ✝️

Many years after these revelations I read the best messages on the Book of Hebrews.. If anyone is interested they can be found on stempublishing.com under J L Harris entitled Jewish Bondage.
💜
Mary


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Are all of our sins—past, present, and future—forgiven once and for all when we become Christians? Not according to the Bible or the early Church Fathers. Scripture nowhere states that our future sins are forgiven; instead, it teaches us to pray, "And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors" (Matt. 6:12).

The means by which God forgives sins after baptism is confession: "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9).

here are early Christians on this topic:

The Didache


"Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure" (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]).



The Letter of Barnabas


"You shall judge righteously. You shall not make a schism, but you shall pacify those that contend by bringing them together. You shall confess your sins. You shall not go to prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of light" (Letter of Barnabas 19 [A.D. 74]).



Ignatius of Antioch


"For as many as are of God and of Jesus Christ are also with the bishop. And as many as shall, in the exercise of penance, return into the unity of the Church, these, too, shall belong to God, that they may live according to Jesus Christ" (Letter to the Philadelphians 3 [A.D. 110]).

"For where there is division and wrath, God does not dwell. To all them that repent, the Lord grants forgiveness, if they turn in penitence to the unity of God, and to communion with the bishop" (ibid., 8).



Irenaeus


"[The Gnostic disciples of Marcus] have deluded many women. . . . Their consciences have been branded as with a hot iron. Some of these women make a public confession, but others are ashamed to do this, and in silence, as if withdrawing from themselves the hope of the life of God, they either apostatize entirely or hesitate between the two courses" (Against Heresies 1:22 [A.D. 189]).



Tertullian


"[Regarding confession, some] flee from this work as being an exposure of themselves, or they put it off from day to day. I presume they are more mindful of modesty than of salvation, like those who contract a disease in the more shameful parts of the body and shun making themselves known to the physicians; and thus they perish along with their own bashfulness" (Repentance 10:1 [A.D. 203]).



Hippolytus


"[The bishop conducting the ordination of the new bishop shall pray:] God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. . . . Pour forth now that power which comes from you, from your royal Spirit, which you gave to your beloved Son, Jesus Christ, and which he bestowed upon his holy apostles . . . and grant this your servant, whom you have chosen for the episcopate, [the power] to feed your holy flock and to serve without blame as your high priest, ministering night and day to propitiate unceasingly before your face and to offer to you the gifts of your holy Church, and by the Spirit of the high priesthood to have the authority to forgive sins, in accord with your command" (Apostolic Tradition 3 [A.D. 215]).



Origen


"[A final method of forgiveness], albeit hard and laborious [is] the remission of sins through penance, when the sinner . . . does not shrink from declaring his sin to a priest of the Lord and from seeking medicine, after the manner of him who say, ‘I said, "To the Lord I will accuse myself of my iniquity"’" (Homilies on Leviticus 2:4 [A.D. 248]).



Cyprian of Carthage


"The apostle [Paul] likewise bears witness and says: ‘ . . . Whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord’ [1 Cor. 11:27]. But [the impenitent] spurn and despise all these warnings; before their sins are expiated, before they have made a confession of their crime, before their conscience has been purged in the ceremony and at the hand of the priest . . . they do violence to [the Lord’s] body and blood, and with their hands and mouth they sin against the Lord more than when they denied him" (The Lapsed 15:1–3 (A.D. 251]).

"Of how much greater faith and salutary fear are they who . . . confess their sins to the priests of God in a straightforward manner and in sorrow, making an open declaration of conscience. . . . I beseech you, brethren, let everyone who has sinned confess his sin while he is still in this world, while his confession is still admissible, while the satisfaction and remission made through the priests are still pleasing before the Lord" (ibid., 28).

"[S]inners may do penance for a set time, and according to the rules of discipline come to public confession, and by imposition of the hand of the bishop and clergy receive the right of Communion. [But now some] with their time [of penance] still unfulfilled . . . they are admitted to Communion, and their name is presented; and while the penitence is not yet performed, confession is not yet made, the hands of the bishop and clergy are not yet laid upon them, the Eucharist is given to them; although it is written, ‘Whosoever shall eat the bread and drink the cup of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord’ [1 Cor. 11:27]" (Letters 9:2 [A.D. 253]).

"And do not think, dearest brother, that either the courage of the brethren will be lessened, or that martyrdoms will fail for this cause, that penance is relaxed to the lapsed, and that the hope of peace [i.e., absolution] is offered to the penitent. . . . For to adulterers even a time of repentance is granted by us, and peace is given" (ibid., 51[55]:20).

"But I wonder that some are so obstinate as to think that repentance is not to be granted to the lapsed, or to suppose that pardon is to be denied to the penitent, when it is written, ‘Remember whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works’ [Rev. 2:5], which certainly is said to him who evidently has fallen, and whom the Lord exhorts to rise up again by his deeds [of penance], because it is written, ‘Alms deliver from death’ [Tob. 12:9]" (ibid., 51[55]:22).



Aphraahat the Persian Sage


"You [priests], then, who are disciples of our illustrious physician [Christ], you ought not deny a curative to those in need of healing. And if anyone uncovers his wound before you, give him the remedy of repentance. And he that is ashamed to make known his weakness, encourage him so that he will not hide it from you. And when he has revealed it to you, do not make it public, lest because of it the innocent might be reckoned as guilty by our enemies and by those who hate us" (Treatises 7:3 [A.D. 340]).



Basil the Great


"It is necessary to confess our sins to those to whom the dispensation of God’s mysteries is entrusted. Those doing penance of old are found to have done it before the saints. It is written in the Gospel that they confessed their sins to John the Baptist [Matt. 3:6], but in Acts [19:18] they confessed to the apostles" (Rules Briefly Treated 288 [A.D. 374]).



John Chrysostom


"Priests have received a power which God has given neither to angels nor to archangels. It was said to them: ‘Whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose, shall be loosed.’ Temporal rulers have indeed the power of binding; but they can only bind the body. Priests, in contrast, can bind with a bond which pertains to the soul itself and transcends the very heavens. Did [God] not give them all the powers of heaven? ‘Whose sins you shall forgive,’ he says, ‘they are forgiven them; whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.’ What greater power is there than this? The Father has given all judgment to the Son. And now I see the Son placing all this power in the hands of men [Matt. 10:40; John 20:21–23]. They are raised to this dignity as if they were already gathered up to heaven" (The Priesthood 3:5 [A.D. 387]).



Ambrose of Milan


"For those to whom [the right of binding and loosing] has been given, it is plain that either both are allowed, or it is clear that neither is allowed. Both are allowed to the Church, neither is allowed to heresy. For this right has been granted to priests only" (Penance 1:1 [A.D. 388]).



Jerome


"If the serpent, the devil, bites someone secretly, he infects that person with the venom of sin. And if the one who has been bitten keeps silence and does not do penance, and does not want to confess his wound . . . then his brother and his master, who have the word [of absolution] that will cure him, cannot very well assist him" (Commentary on Ecclesiastes 10:11 [A.D. 388]).



Augustine


"When you shall have been baptized, keep to a good life in the commandments of God so that you may preserve your baptism to the very end. I do not tell you that you will live here without sin, but they are venial sins which this life is never without. Baptism was instituted for all sins. For light sins, without which we cannot live, prayer was instituted. . . . But do not commit those sins on account of which you would have to be separated from the body of Christ. Perish the thought! For those whom you see doing penance have committed crimes, either adultery or some other enormities. That is why they are doing penance. If their sins were light, daily prayer would suffice to blot them out. . . . In the Church, therefore, there are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptisms, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance" (Sermon to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15, 8:16 [A.D. 395]).


The Bible clearly shares that we are to confess our sins to God as Christians but also James shares to each other, including the pastor:


James 5:13-16 New International Version (NIV)

The Prayer of Faith
13 Is anyone among you in trouble? Let them pray. Is anyone happy? Let them sing songs of praise. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.


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 Re: Do Christians Need to Confess Their Sins?

I believe in confessing sins as it states in the book of James so that you may be healed.
What I find so sad is that I have to confess to family .
I always used to confess my sins before the breaking of bread as i found communion the best time and it specifies it in 2 Corinthians but it is finding someone who is trustworthy and you feel that you can open up to in church.
I find this so hard finding someone who I can compelty trust in church with personal things as I hate prayer teams as I find them so impersonal and I don't see any scripture supporting them.
To me I think that time has been lost I know that is where some revivals where born was over the communion table


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 Re: Do Christians Need to Confess Their Sins?

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I was shocked the other day when I heard a well known teacher, that I really think a lot of, that made the statement that Jesus died for all of our sins: past, present, and future, and that it is not necessary for a Christian to confess his sins.



This seems to be a mix-up of justification and sanctification.

God wants us to know that we are justified freely by His grace and so we can go on in our walk without constantly worrying whether we are doing it adequately or not. One theologian has written that God declares a believer righteous at the beginning of their course, not at the end of it.

But in that confidence we are sure that God is working in us daily by the way of the cross. Having received the gift of eternal life we are now commanded to let that light shine. There are many things which hinder the light that must be removed. If it were not so why would Jesus walk among the candlesticks in Revelation and call them to repent and overcome as He overcame?

In Christ,


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"This seems to be a mix-up of justification and sanctification."

Ron, I agree with you. I understand what many teachers are attempting to do to rid Christians of this sin consciousness that plagues many within the Body of Christ, especially young believers. But the scriptural teaching of our justification, that we have been made the righteousness of God in Christ does not mean that we have arrived, and that in our present condition there is no further work of the Holy Spirit to be done in practical holiness. Our sanctification is progressive and will continue until Christ returns or we are absent from this body and in the presence of the Lord.


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