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 10 Common Mistakes People Make When Reading Revelation

I am generally not a big fan of "slide-show" type articles, but I thought this one was really good (probably because I agree with it!)

https://www.crosswalk.com/slideshows/10-common-mistakes-people-make-when-reading-revelation.html


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Todd

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 Re: Misunderstanding the Term "Last Days"

/Christians today read about the "last days" and they get excited. They think in terms of Jenkins/LaHaye novels and Hollywood movies and immediately think "last days of the earth." Again, if you start in the Old Testament, you will understand that most of the references to the “last days” – also referred to as “latter days” (KJV and NASB), and “days to come” (ESV, NIV and NASB) – are referring to the last days of the Old Covenant, not the last days of the world.

For example, in Acts 2:14-40, Peter starts his powerful sermon on the day the first Church was established by quoting Joel 2:28-32 in which he says “In the last days it shall be….” That wouldn’t exactly be a relevant sermon on Opening Day of the First Christian Church, if Peter was talking about the last days of the earth some 2,000 + years hence, would it? But when you realize that sermon is talking about the last days of the Old Covenant that God made with Israel, it suddenly makes sense that Peter would be letting the first Christians know that, indeed, the ending of the Old Covenant was finally upon them and the New Covenant was being ushered in. The New Covenant was with Jesus – the long-awaited Messiah – who had been killed and then raised from the dead and “God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you (remember the audience relevance?) crucified” (Acts 2:36). By the way, the term Old Testament and New Testament is another way of saying Old Covenant and New Covenant. Understand the meaning of the various uses of “last days” throughout the Bible and you’ll better understand Revelation./

/For example, in Acts 2:14-40, Peter starts his powerful sermon on the day the first Church was established by quoting Joel 2:28-32 in which he says “In the last days it shall be….” That wouldn’t exactly be a relevant sermon on Opening Day of the First Christian Church, if Peter was talking about the last days of the earth some 2,000 + years hence, would it?/

What of the reality that Christ unexpectedly brought the powers of the age to come into this present evil age (Heb 6:4-5)? The Spirit was believed to be poured out at the end of this present age. Peter made note that the pouring out of the Spirit was happening NOW before this present evil age ended. Why couldn't some of the events forecast to occur in the last days begin to occur within this age also, even in Peter's lifetime?

Meanwhile, say someone is living 39 years before Christ's second coming or 22 years or 9 years before - what "days" would they be living in?


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The days directly proceeding the 2d coming could rightly be called the last days, but that is not the last days scripture is talking about using language like “soon” and “shortly” and “quickly.”


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 Re: 10 Common Mistakes People Make When Reading Revelation

I love the book of Revelation, having read it through many times. What triggered my interest in it was when I took it in Bible School back in 1967. Bro. Plank told us things would happen like it says it will. Well! this concept flies in face of those who say it is all symbolic.

Fast forward. I am a grown adult now, some say old...maybe so.

One must understand John is sharing a vision he saw. I think people get confused, bewildered when they read it and think they need to interpret its meanings now. WRONG! I say read it to visualize what John saw. See the vision with him!! In so doing, what does this vision tell you about the nature of God? That is the most important point of it all.

Next, I say, study it using the Inductive Method of Bible study. I do fault the charts I find online that do not take this approach. It is all context, context, let it interpret itself, do not impose your opinions, let it shape yours.

Do I understand it all, know where, when these events will occur? Not at all. But am enjoying the mystery of it. Presently, it comforts knowing God is in control

I was surprised to find this post as I had been looking online for a study group discussing Revelation using the Inductive Method, but did not find one...given the nature of people likely won't...

The book is a blessing to study and read. Go for it! It will shape your concept of God, for sure. You will be blessed!

Sandra


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 Re: 10 Common Mistakes People Make When Reading Revelation

I read through those slideshows. My heart sank. They seem to be written by someone who views the bible as words for back then and not for today.
To water down the impact of the words in revelations for today's church is both dangerous and yet typical. You cant explain most of things in revelation in such a slap hazard way as those slide shows did.

1 Corinthians 2:14
14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

If the slide shows state that this book was just meant for the churches back then and not today then that is deceptive and not the wisdom of God.
Whoever put these slide shows together comes under the category of those who add or take away from the words in the book.
Read it the way they suggest if you like, you can read the first chapter as if it doesn't apply to you too just like they suggest. The rest of the book will not touch your spirit if you start like that.


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 Re: Inductive Method,

Inductive Method, Amen


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 Re: Inductive Method

I am not against the Inductive Method. I use it myself. BUT, the Inductive Method remains a human method and mighty Human Reason and Human Wisdom easily rise up to take charge in determining and analysing “context”. And surely alarm bells are ringing when “context” is set high on a pedestal and is idolised and adored.



QUOTE:

"Reason must yield up its own hearing and life, and give itself up to God, that God may live in the understanding of man, else there is no finding in the divine wisdom. All that is taught and spoken concerning God, without the Spirit of God, is but Babel."

"……pray to God the Most High, that he would be pleased to open the door of knowledge………”



John 14:26 –
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 16:13 –
But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.

James 1:5 –
But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him.



Without any human “method”, God can give the sudden understanding that floods the mind with light, fills the heart with joy and conviction, and, bring into real experience the sweet taste of the love and goodness of God.



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//If the slide shows state that this book was just meant for the churches back then and not today then that is deceptive and not the wisdom of God.//

I didn't go back and read the whole thing again but that is not what it said at all. What it said was that the book was written to real persons/churches at a real time in history and those people/churches were under intense persecution. It was written to them and for them.

That is not to say that the principles in the book are not intended for us today. All scripture is intended for us today in some way.

What the article warned about was trying to force clearly apocalyptic and symbolic language to things happening 2000 years in the future.


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The book describes among other things, the rise of the AC, an intense persecution of Israel and the church by him and the eventual second coming of Christ. It's hard to see how it doesn't concern prophetic events still to occur. Time cannot dilute or nullify biblical prophecy.


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//The book describes among other things, the rise of the AC, an intense persecution of Israel and the church by him//

That is how you have interpreted certain apocalyptic passages. Others interpret differently and no one has a monopoly on the truth as to how it should be interpreted. No where is the word “antichrist” used in the book.


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