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FranklinB
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 Plant Your Healing

God has created a process by which He supplies all you need. In this instance I'm going to concentrate on healing. It is the kingdom of God process which operates on the principle of sowing and reaping (Mark 4:26-28). In Genesis 1:11,12 & 2:5,6 we see God giving the seed, soil, and water their assignment and ability. Every seed has the ability to become something. The soil increases the seed into it's full potential. And the rain/water makes the soil increase the seed to it's full potential (Isaiah 55:10).

And all of these things working together will produce something. If I plant a rose seed in the ground and water it the potential in that seed will go to work and continue to work until it's potential is fulfilled. It's the same thing with God's word. Mark 4:3 says, "Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow." Mark 4:14 says, "The sower soweth the word", that's the seed. Mark 4:15 says, "Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts", that's the soil. And Ephesians 5:26 says, "That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word", it's also the water.

So, how do I plant the word and water it, by hearing it. 1Corinthians 3:6,7 says, "I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase." "So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase." You can speak the word yourself. Romans 10:8 says, "But what saith it? The Word Is Nigh Thee Even In Thy Mouth, And In Thy Heart: that is the word of faith which we preach." The first time the word is deposited that's the planting each time after that is watering.

That's the same principle of Proverbs 4:20-23 your eyes, ears, and mouth are entrances to your heart/soil. That is instructions to plant and water the seed. And the seed is powerful for Romans 1:16 says, the word of God is the power of God. Well, the word of God being the power of God means it has the power to do something because God is all powerful which means He has the power to do all things and God and his word are one. John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God". God heals and his word heals. The word health in verse 22 in the hebrew is marpe translated as- medicine, healing, remedy, and cure. And that word was taken from another hebrew word rapha (which is a covenant name of God, Jehovah-rapha The Lord our healer) which means- to mend, to cure, cause to heal, physician, repair, make whole. The Lord is our physician and every physician has his medicine. Psalm 107:20 say, "He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions."

God put his healing power in the seed. Just as He did in the natural Genesis 1:11,12 He doesn't have to speak to create any more trees the seeds now do the work. What God did by speaking man now does by planting and watering. So, every seed represents something God has already done. Because if God hasn't already done it you can't have a seed of it. God's word says, "Surely he hath borne our griefs(diseases, sicknesses) and carried our sorrows(anguish,afflictions,pains)" "The chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed". That was Isaiah looking ahead to the cross. And 1Peter 2:24 is Peter looking back at the cross and says, "By whose stripes ye were healed." Notice, Peter states it as an accomplished act and not something to be done in the future. Now, what's our part take the seed and plant and water it. You have to speak as God has said it and not how you see it. 2Corinthians 4:18 says, "While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal(changeable); but the things which are not seen are eternal(ever lasting). So, the unseen things are real or else how could you look at them. What is seen, your conditions. What is not seen, what Jesus did for you by the shedding of his blood. That's what God did with Abraham and Sarah. He changed their names to get them talking in line with what He said. Even though their bodies were in contrary conditions. Romans 4:19 says, "And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither the deadness of Sarah's womb." But, by the planting and watering of the seed their bodies changed.

You see the same principle in Acts 14:7-10 a man impotent in his feet sat and heard Paul preach(plant & water) and when Paul perceived that the man had faith he told the man to stand up and he leaped up and walked. Nobody prayed for him, or laid hands on him, or called upon the name of Jesus, just him and the word did the job. Remember, it was Paul that said, "I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase." Even I myself have my own testimony, I myself followed those same principles. When that sickness attacked my body I spoke the way God said it and not how it was in the natural. Romans 4:17 says, God calls things that be not (manifested) as though they were (manifested). And that's the same thing God told Abraham and Sarah to do. That's what God said to do in Joel 3:10 "Let the weak say I am strong." And that's what I did, "By the stripes of Jesus I am healed." I spoke the way God said it was. I put my eyes on the word, I listened to the word, I kept the word in the midst of my heart and out of my heart/spirit/soil came my healing.

 2018/9/27 0:51Profile
Heydave
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 Re: Plant Your Healing

Quote: "So, how do I plant the word and water it, by hearing it. 1Corinthians 3:6,7 says, "I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase." "So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase." You can speak the word yourself. Romans 10:8 says, "But what saith it? The Word Is Nigh Thee Even In Thy Mouth, And In Thy Heart: that is the word of faith which we preach." The first time the word is deposited that's the planting each time after that is watering."

This is such an extreme example of misquoting scripture out of it's clear context! It is defamatory to Paul who wrote this letter.

If I had written a letter to a church using the analogy of planting and watering to encourage the building up of the church and then someone took what I wrote and said 'Dave said you can get healed by this principle of planting the word and keeping it watered', I would be more than a little upset. I never said anything of the sort and neither did Paul!


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Dave

 2018/9/27 6:28Profile
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 Re: Plant Your Healing


Dave: This quote "That's the same principle of Proverbs 4:20-23 your eyes, ears, and mouth are entrances to your heart/soil. That is instructions to plant and water the seed. And the seed is powerful for Romans 1:16 says, the word of God is the power of God. Well, the word of God being the power of God means it has the power to do something because God is all powerful which means He has the power to do all things and God and his word are one."

In Word of Faith teaching this is called 'working the word'
Copeland clever teaching on this subject has deluded many Christians along the way.
The important thing to note.
Jesus did not handle God's word this way, nor was he instructed of his Father to 'work the word' in this manner.
For instance.
When tempted in the wilderness, Jesus would not 'work the word' to provide food for himself even though he was directly challenged to do so.
Jesus would not 'work the word' to put God to the test by doing something that tempted God even though God had promised to protect.

The difference lay in one important aspect. Jesus did not live 'by the word' autonomously. The WOF teachers do this explicitly and without apology. Jesus ministered in faith as the Father worked in him and through him. He didn't merely operate by faith in any promise of God outside of direct and clear leading and guidance from the Father.
If a WOF disciple were tempted in the wilderness as Jesus was, they would have failed miserably. They would have quickly acted to obtain bread, or display their powers by magnificent feats of faith all the while falling prey to satanic suggestion and disobedience to the Father.

This kind of teaching though filled with scripture after scripture is in contradiction to the manner and life Jesus himself lived. Faith teachers are exploiters and they have no qualms about using God as a means to an end.


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Marvin

 2018/9/27 16:14Profile
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Some of you after reading Franklins post may notice some pronounced differences between many posts on topics that deal with being 'led of the Spirit' or 'walking in the Spirit' or 'following Jesus'.

You may notice that a genuine 'Holy Spirit guided walk' does not empower you to live autonomously, instead there is more and more listening, dependence, waiting, praying, discerning the will and leading of God. The genuine Holy Spirit dynamic does not lay in simply memorizing favorite passages and applying them to whatever need you have at the moment. The Holy Spirit actually teaches you along the way how and when to believe and apply the promises of God. For the WOF this sort of thing is actually a hindrance to them. They have decided already that God and his word are ready to be activated or used according to the needs and whims of such a person.

You might also notice that sacrifice, the loss of goods, health and reputation are at odds with being 'led of the Spirit' because poverty, ill health, bad reputation, lack of ministry influence, small ministry work or outreach or whatever does not grow exponentially is always without question a mark of 'unbelief' and a disreputable use of God's word.

So, I hope you will see genuine 'walking in the Spirit' does not work the word nor look at the promises of God as merely the means to some personal gain, rather, the promises of God were always for the building of his own kingdom and for the demonstration of his love and power in our lives and others. But even in the midst of miracles and wonderful supernatural occurrences' persecution, poverty, weakness, suffering, loss and a bad reputation may also simultaneously be a part of 'walking in the Spirit'.

As is said in pilgrims progress..."these love religion when it walks in silver slippers and with applause".


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