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jochbaptist
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 Defining Headship and Submission

Hi
I found this very concise definition describing the biblical roles in marriage.
I was wondering if there were any objections, thoughts or other short definitions that some might be aware of?

Headship is the divine calling of a husband to take primary responsibility for Christlike servant leadership, protection, and provision in the home.

Submission is the divine calling of a wife to honor and affirm her husband’s leadership and help carry it through according to her gifts.

https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/husbands-who-love-like-christ-and-the-wives-who-submit-to-them


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J Kruger

 2018/6/15 5:58Profile
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 Re: Defining Headship and Submission



Defining headship and submission is easy. It's the practice thereof which is difficult.

 2018/6/15 8:31Profile
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 savannah

You can say that again, brother.


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J Kruger

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 Re: Defining Headship and Submission

Brother Kruger,

In agreeing with basic tenets set forth, I’d like to add this -

Love is the basis for it ALL,..
The husband serves the wife in the same way Christ serves us,... by example.
Christ was lovingly submitted to the Father and as such serves as the perfect example for us (husbands) to be submitted to Him. In this way we (hubs) serve as an example for our wives.
Likewise, just as Christ Himself is very patient, merciful, faithful, gentle and loving with us (hubs) while we learn, we too should be the same with our wives:)
Basically our “job” is to love and lead our wives-
But what if we are lovingly leading our wives and they’re not following??
Well then it is NOT our job to make them follow!
That is the responsibility of Holy Spirit Himself and we should trust Him, not seeking to usurp His authority.

In my experience when we (hubs) are ourselves lovingly submitted to the Lord, He has the means to affect the hearts of our wives :)

He says, “He turns the hearts of Kings like rivers”.... so I’m pretty sure He can handle our spouses ;)

Edited for spelling


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Fletcher

 2018/6/15 9:18Profile
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WHAT DEAR BROTHER FLETCHER SAID!!!!! HALLELUJAH!!

Made my morning!!!

Thanks for this thread saints!!

Is there a more under attack illustration of Christ and his bride than our marriages in this hour? Lord, help!!

Of course eternal relationships in the body of Christ transcend marriage, but thanks be to God for the grace to endure and even thrive in the unique covenant of marriage here and now!

Oh Lord Jesus, may more and more marriages accurately reflect your relationship with your pure spotless bride, who is even now making herself ready!

Love you all so much!


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Caleb

 2018/6/15 9:59Profile
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Thank you JFW

That was beautiful.
Amen


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J Kruger

 2018/6/15 13:41Profile
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 Under attack

“Is there a more under attack illustration of Christ and his bride than our marriages in this hour? Lord, help!!“

Yes, help Lord.

If it was not for some firm and loving intervention by our church, mine would have been blown out of the water.

However, neither is there an institution better designed to bring us into the image of His likeness, as well.


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J Kruger

 2018/6/16 4:36Profile
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 Under attack

“Is there a more under attack illustration of Christ and his bride than our marriages in this hour? Lord, help!!“

Yes, help Lord.

If it was not for some firm and loving intervention by our church, mine would have been blown out of the water.

However, neither is there an institution better designed to bring us into the image of His likeness, as well.


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J Kruger

 2018/6/16 8:48Profile
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 Re: Under attack

“Firm and loving intervention”.

That sounds Heavenly dear J. Kruger! You are blessed and the mercy of God is precious toward his beloved saints!

Even right now I am aware of some “intervention” by a church that is firm, and yet not being experienced as loving (by the repentant party). It is so grievous because it has the feel of a cold, transactional discipline, not rooted and grounded in our Father’s love, which is toward reconciliation and redemption.

At times it is hard not to despair.

The only successful way to press on in my personal experience is to look to Christ Jesus and not stop until my heart and mind are rightly oriented in the reality of his glory.

Again, Lord help!

Thank you again for this thread and your testimony! I don’t want to press you for details that you are not comfortable sharing, but I also welcome hearing more of how God worked to bring you to the victory you and your spouse are experiencing now!

With love,
Caleb

*edited to be more succinct


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