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"Had to Snopes this one- the claim is untrue." Maybe not so quick to dismiss things brother.........bro Frank

 2018/4/23 19:04









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/// We are one or the other, but not both at the same time. ///

Agreed brother. We are either in the camp of Christ or in the camp of Satan. But not sitting on the fence.

There's a story that says those on the right side of the fence belong to God. Those on the left side of the fence belong to Satan. When those on the fence asked what about us? Satan said I own the fence.

 2018/4/23 20:19
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"The task force concluded that sexual orientation change efforts can pose critical health risks to lesbian, gay, and bisexual people, including confusion, depression, guilt, helplessness, hopelessness, shame, social withdrawal, suicidality, substance abuse, stress, disappointment, self-blame, decreased self-esteem and authenticity to others, increased self-hatred, hostility and blame toward parents, feelings of anger and betrayal, loss of friends and potential romantic partners, problems in sexual and emotional intimacy, sexual dysfunction, high-risk sexual behaviors, a feeling of being dehumanized and untrue to self, a loss of faith, and a sense of having wasted time and resources."

From bill "AB-2943 Unlawful business practices: sexual orientation change efforts."

This is just another stepping stone for the forces of darkness to try to silence christians.


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//Maybe not so quick to dismiss things//

The part claimed to be untrue is that the bill will result in the Bible being banned in CA. I find this exceedingly unlikely.

Let’s do a status check a year from now.

There is little doubt that CA is filled with liberal socialist God-haters and certainly the LGTB lobby there would love to see the Bible banned. That would be a huge Constitutional hurdle, however and I do not think the time is quite ripe for that. But maybe the threat will shake some Christians up out there.


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Nigel writes............

"This is just another stepping stone for the forces of darkness to try to silence Christians."

Many get that Nigel, many do not, its just a stepping stone too far for them to see what is coming. If a man only has sight in one eye, partial sight, he can put his telescope to his blind eye and announce he sees no ships and be telling the truth. Of course Lord Nelson was doing it for honorable reasons. ( probably have to the British to get that) .......bro Frank

 2018/4/24 0:26
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 Re: URGENT! CALIFORNIA PUSHES BILL TO BAN THE BIBLE AND MATERIAL THAT STATES HOMOSEXU

This sort of thing had already been passed into law in Canada and Sweden quite some time ago, and pastors who have preached from Romans 1 from the pulpit have suffered for it with imprisonment and/or fines.

Same with the UK:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/05/preacher-locked-hate-crime-quoting-bible-gay-teenager/

It's swiftly coming to the USA.


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From that article:

"Andrea Williams, chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, said: “It is a great relief that the judge ruled in favour of Gordon, because the case simply did not stand up to scrutiny.”

Mr Larmour is a born-again Christian who has been street preaching for seven years. At around 7.30pm on July 17 last year he was handing out leaflets on Irvine's High Street when a group of young men passed him.

He told them: “Don't forget Jesus loves you and He died for your sins.” One asked Mr Larmour, “What does your God say about homosexuals?”

The two argued and Mr Larmour claimed he was chased by the young man. However, he was the one arrested when the police arrived.

He said: “I think the police should have handled it differently and listened to what I had to say. They should have calmed the boy down and left it at that.

“In court the boy's friend told the truth - that I hadn't assaulted him or called him homophobic names. I had simply answered his question and told him about Adam and Eve and Heaven and Hell. Preaching from the Bible is not a crime.”
At Kilmarnock Sheriff Court last month, Sheriff Alistair Watson ruled there was no case to answer and acquitted Mr Larmour of threatening or abusive behaviour, aggravated by prejudice relating to sexual orientation.

The sheriff also found him not guilty of a second charge of assault aggravated by prejudice relating to sexual orientation."


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 Re: URGENT! CALIFORNIA PUSHES BILL TO BAN THE BIBLE AND MATERIAL THAT STATES HOMOSEXU

Remember this one? https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/28/oregon-court-rules-christian-bakery-must-pay-135g-to-lesbian-couple.amp.html#ampshare=http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/28/oregon-court-rules-christian-bakery-must-pay-135g-to-lesbian-couple.html


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Christians Under Assault

“‘Now, Lord, look on their threats, and grant to Your servants that with all boldness they may speak Your word, by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.’ And when they had prayed, the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of God with boldness. “Acts 4:29-31
For several days, we have been receiving texts and emails with concerns about attack that is taking place on Christians and on the WORD OF GOD! .We are all too aware of the ever-increasing assault on our faith and the cultural “sneering” that is being directed at the Bible. We recognize that these things have real-world consequences: they fuel anti-Christian hostility and dramatically influence some with “weak or depraved minds” who are part of our national, state and local governments.
Consider the recent anti-Christian activity taking place in the California state legislature. Assembly Bill 2943 has the potential for impacting free speech, and would ban efforts to share or promote Christian teaching on sexual morality. Its broad reach leaves even simple religious speech on same-sex attraction or activities open to legal action...and threatens the basic human right of freedom of religion.

This Bill, which passed through the California State Assembly last week, now goes to the State Senate.
It would make any transaction attempting to change someone’s sexual orientation unlawful.
It seeks to amend the Consumer Legal Remedies Act (CRLA), a law that protects consumers from sellers who are mischaracterizing their product or service.
It would classify the advertising of or engaging in “gay conversion” therapy or sexual orientation change efforts, as a fraudulent business practice, asserting that the practice of trying to change someone’s sexual orientation is ineffective
It defines such efforts as “any practices that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation, behaviors or gender expressions, or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward individuals of the same sex”.
The inclusion of efforts to change behaviors as a banned activity leads many to believe that the bill could be used to prohibit the promotion of Christian sexual morality - through books, counseling, or teaching - and prevent adults from making decisions for themselves.

This bill inhibits the ability to share “the Gospel’s universal call for repentance and changes in behavior.” As a law, it could result in legal challenges to preachers who discuss sexuality, leading to harassment and legal challenges against preaching, literature, conferences and organizations that address sexual morality. This could include basic Christian and biblical teaching and counseling against unrepentant homosexual conduct -- something to which Bible-believing Christians across America hold.

This could lead to a prohibition on church bookstores selling books or materials which express the biblical and Christian position on unrepentant homosexual conduct, Christian counseling books on LGBT-related issues, and the Bible, considering what it says about homosexual conduct.

The bill clearly includes the sale of any books and materials that counsel according to a Biblical view of sexuality. Just because the bill doesn't say "the Bible is hereby banned" doesn't mean there wouldn't be enforcement against the sale of the Bible…or any other book which asserts that homosexual conduct is wrong.

Many Christians are simply expressing biblical position on sexuality and “drawing fire” for doing so. Anti-Christian groups are seeking the eradication of biblical beliefs and forces opposed to Christian beliefs on sexuality will eventually come against anyone and everyone who stands by biblical truth.

Many in our “fractured” society are openly opposed to the mere expression of biblical truth about sexuality. Part of the gospel message is the clear proclamation and recognition of sin. Without this, Christ's provision on the cross for our sins makes no sense; only with the admission of sin can we enter into true freedom and peace in Christ. We must not compromise on this true gospel message, and must fully trust God to guide us as we continue to do everything we can to win people to Christ. Although many will try to stamp out the gospel message...we must be prepared for this opposition when it comes, and continue proclaiming the truth for as long as we are able to do so! God be with us!

Ioan Peia

(Resource: Family Research Council)


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“Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matthew 5:11-12

Why is this never our reaction when the world picks on us poor Christians? Why is our first reaction to wring our hands as if God has no idea what He is doing? The last time I checked, God is still on the throne— he is still in control.


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