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savannah
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 Re: Fear


33x thanks for the reminder Mr. Bill. It is certainly a comfort!

One more though, which ought not be ignored, lest wicked men and the lukewarm in the pew become more and more at ease in zion;


"But I'll tell you whom to fear. Fear God, who has the power to kill you and then throw you into hell. Yes, He's the one to fear." Luke 12:5

We all know that, "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
Proverbs 1:7

 2018/2/19 23:28Profile
StirItUp
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 Re:

Brethren,

Instead of tackling each other why do we not make a proper study of God's judgement and share the findings on a separate thread (especially those who are experienced in the Scriptures) Surely one cannot willy nilly quote scriptures from the OT and broadly apply them to us now, in the NT dispensation?

Questions to be answered: What is God's judgement?
When does He judge? Who does He judge? Difference between historic judgement on His people Israel in the OT and judgement now and of course the judgement to come?

Does He judge the world now or only the church?

Often the scriptures speak of bringing judgement on ourselves (as in the homosexual lifestyle etc)

Eg. the scriptures say Jesus will return and then judge the nations in righteousness

What about the statement: " Mercy triumphs over judgement"?

Jesus said the Holy Spirit will convict of righteousness, sin and judgement...because they believe not. This IS the judgement, not believing...?


Dive in, beloved brethren, and let the wisdom of the Spirit prevail!

Blessings,


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William

 2018/2/20 3:42Profile
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 Re: Guarding Against Guilt

Satan's primary weapon against humanity is guilt. Be very careful against anyone or anything that makes you feel guilty; it does not come from God. The Holy Spirit [convicts] the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment" (John 16:8) - but that is different from guilt.

With guilt, you never know if you have done quite enough. This is not the Holy Spirit working; that is another, evil power, coming from a different source.

Be on your guard then, against anything that makes you feel guilty. This is a denial of the work of the cross - very different from the specific conviction of the Holy Spirit.

(From "Bought With Blood" - by Derek Prince)

Meanwhile, the voice of Christ BECKONS ands LEADS His flock while Satan CONDEMNS and DRIVES as if with a whip.


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David Winter

 2018/2/20 5:53Profile
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 Re: Brother William

Brother William, do you believe the 10 commandments are still relevant today? Or do you believe they’re not, because they were under the law? Some of the final words of the Bible and this revelation of Jesus Christ likewise state “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city” (Revelation 22:14).


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Mr. Bill

 2018/2/20 6:56Profile
savannah
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 Re: OT - NT



A poster writes,

"Surely one cannot willy nilly quote scriptures from the OT and broadly apply them to us now, in the NT dispensation?"

Surely not, "willy nilly" but apply them nevertheless!
Surely the NT writers were not quoting them in a "nilly willy" manner, yet they were applying them.

The writers of the New Testament directly quote the Psalms 68 times, Isaiah 55 times, Deuteronomy 44 times, Genesis 35 times, Exodus 31 times, Leviticus 13 times, Proverbs 8 times, Zechariah 7 times, Jeremiah 5 times, Hosea 5 times, for a total of 271 times. And there are, in the NT, many other references made to the OT Scriptures as well.

Remember, it was the Finger of Jesus which wrote The Ten Commandments on those Tablets!

 2018/2/20 10:30Profile
StirItUp
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Dear brothers,
Of course I believe all of scripture is profitable, for reproof, training in righteousness etc
The OT however must be used correctly though, especially in God's church, more so the prophetic scripture concerning Jesus Christ.
He is, after all, the supreme revelation, the very Word of God.
To properly apply the Ten Commandments they must be applied to us as those in Christ, in whom the Spirit dwells, He Himself writing these on our hearts and minds.
We are not Israel, we are the church of God, a New Creation...

" A New commandment I give to you, that you love one another as I have loved you"

All things have been made new through the death and resurrection of our Lord.
When interpreting scripture now,we should do so with New Covenant glasses on, lest we become like the Judaizers.

Therefore my plea for the use of OT scripture in context, as NT saints, and a correct view of judgement

Blessings,


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William

 2018/2/20 14:40Profile





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