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 When will we learn from history?

I know that many people here probably think that George Bush is a Christian. But for the sake of history, you owe it to yourself to read this article and see if it sounds like the country you live in:


THE RISE OF THE FOURTH REICH

Everyone likes to say, "Hitler did this", and, "Hitler did that". But the truth is Hitler did very little. He was a world class tyrant, but the evil actually done by the Third Reich, from the death camps to WW2 was all done by German citizens who were afraid to question if what they were told by their government was the truth or not, and who because they did not want to admit to themselves that they were afraid to question the government, refused to see the truth behind the Reichstag Fire, refused to see the invasion by Poland was a staged fake, and followed Hitler into national disaster.

The German people of the late 1930s imagined themselves to be brave. They saw themselves as the heroic Germans depicted by the Wagnerian Operas, the descendants of the fierce Germanic warriors who had hunted wild boar with nothing but spears and who had defeated three of Rome's mightiest legions in the Tuetenberg Forest.

But in truth, by the 1930s, the German people had become civilized and tamed, culturally obsessed with fine details in both science and society. Their self-image of bravery was both salve and slavery. Germans were required to behave as if they were brave, even when they were not.

It's easy to look back and realize what a jerk Hitler was. But at the time, Hitler looked pretty good to the German people, with the help of the media. He was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938. The German people assumed they were safe from a tyrant. They lived in a Republic, after all, with strict laws regarding what the government could and more importantly could not do. Their leader was a devoutly religious man, and had even sung with the boy's choir of a monastery in his youth.

The reality was that the German people, as individuals, had lost their courage. The German government preferred it that way as a fearful people are easier to rule than a courageous one. But the German people didn't wish to lose their self-image of courage. So, when confronted with a situation demanding individual courage, in the form of a government gone wrong, the German people simply pretended that the situation did not exist. And in that simple self-deception lay the ruin of an entire nation and the coming of the second World War.

When the Reichstag burned down, most Germans simply refused to believe suggestions that the fire had been staged by Hitler himself. They were afraid to. But so trapped were the Germans by their belief in their own bravery that they willed themselves to be blind to the evidence before their eyes, so that they could nod in agreement with Der Fuhrer while still imagining themselves to have courage, even as they avoided the one situation which most required real courage; to stand up to Hitler's lies and deceptions.

When Hitler requested temporary extraordinary powers, powers specifically banned under German law, but powers Hitler claimed he needed to have to deal with the "terrorists", the German people, having already sold their souls to their self-delusions, agreed. The temporary powers were conferred, and once conferred lasted until Germany itself was destroyed.

When Hitler staged a phony invasion from Poland, the vast majority of the German people, their own self-image dependant on continuing blindness to Hitler's deceptions, did not question why Poland would have done something so stupid, and found themselves in a war.

But Hitler knew he ruled a nation of cowards, and knew he had to spend the money to make the new war something cowards could fight and win. He decorated his troops with regalia to make them proud of themselves, further trapping them in their self-image. Hitler copied the parade regalia of ancient Rome, to remind the Germans of the defeat of the legions at the Tuetenberg Forest. Talismans were added from orthodox religions and the occult to fill the soldiers with delusions of mystical strengths and an afterlife if they fell in battle. Finally, knowing that it takes courage to kill the enemy face to face, Hitler spent vast sums of money on his wonder weapons, airplanes, submarines, ultra-long range artillery, the world's first cruise missile and the world's first guided missile, weapons that could be used to kill at a distance, so that those doing the killing need not have to face the reality of what they were doing.

The German people were lured into WW2 not because they were brave, but because they were cowards who wanted to be seen as brave, and found that shooting long range weapons at people they could not see took less courage than standing up to Hitler. Sent into battle by that false image of courage, the Germans were dependent on their wonder-weapons. When the wonder-weapons stopped working, the Germans lost the war.

I remember as a child listening to the stories of WW2 from my grandfather and my uncles who had served in Europe. I wondered how the German people could have been so stupid as to have ever elected Hitler dog catcher, let alone leader of the nation. Such is the clarity of historical hindsight. And with that clarity, I see the exact same mechanism that Hitler used at work here in this nation.

The American people imagine themselves to be brave. They see themselves as the heroic Americans depicted by Western Movies, the descendants of the fierce patriot warriors who had tamed the frontier and defeated the might of the British Empire.

But in truth, by the dawn of the third millennium, the American people have become civilized and tamed, culturally obsessed with fine details in both science and society. Their self-image of bravery is both salve and slavery. Americans are required to behave as if they are brave, even when they are not.

The American people assume they are safe. They live in a Republic, after all, with strict laws regarding what the government can and more importantly cannot do. Their leader is a devoutly religious man.

The reality is that the American people, as individuals, have lost their courage. The government prefers it that way as a fearful people are easier to rule than a courageous one. But Americans don't wish to lose their self-image of courage. So, when confronted with a situation demanding courage, in the form of a government gone wrong, the American people simply pretend that the situation does not exist.

When the World Trade Towers collapsed, most Americans simply refused to believe suggestions that the attacks had been staged by parties working for the US Government itself. Americans were afraid to, even as news reports surfaced proving that the US Government had announced plans for the invasion of Afghanistan early in the year, plans into which the attacks on the World Trade Towers which angered the American people into support of the already-planned war fit entirely too conveniently. But so trapped are Americans by their belief in their own bravery that they will themselves to be blind to the evidence before their eyes, so that they can nod in agreement with the government while still imagining themselves to have courage, even as they avoid the one situation which most requires real courage; to stand up to the government's lies and deceptions. The vast majority of the American people, their own self-image dependant on continuing blindness to the government's deceptions, never question why Afghanistan would have done something so stupid as to attack the United States, and as a result, Americans find themselves in a war.

Now the US Government has requested temporary extraordinary powers, powers specifically banned under Constitutional law, but powers the government is claiming they need to have to deal with the "terrorists". The American people, having already sold their souls to their self-delusions, are agreeing. The temporary powers recently conferred will be no more temporary in America than they were in Germany.

The US Government knows they rule a nation of cowards. The government has had to spend the money to make the new war something cowards can fight. The government has decorated the troops with regalia to make them proud of themselves, further trapping them in their self-image. Talismans are added from orthodox religions and the occult to fill the soldiers with delusions of mystical strengths and an afterlife if they fall in battle. Finally, knowing that it takes courage to kill the enemy face to face, the United States government has spent vast sums of money on wonder weapons, airplanes, submarines, ultra-long range artillery, cruise missiles, and guided missiles, weapons that kill at a distance, so that those doing the killing need not have to face the reality of what they are doing.

As I mentioned above, Hitler was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938. Stalin was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year for 1939 and 1942. Both of these men, and many others also celibrated by the media, were unimaginable monsters. The lesson from these facts is that it isn't easy to spot a genocidal tyrant when you live with one, especially one whom the press supports and promotes. Tyrants become obvious only when looking back, after what they have done becomes known. The German people did not stand up to Hitler because their media betrayed them, just as the American media is betraying the American people by willingly, voluntarily, even proudly, abandoning its traditional role as watchdog against government abuse.

It is the very nature of power that it attracts the sort of people who should not have it. The United States, as the world's last superpower, is a prize that attracts men and women willing to do absolutely anything to win that power, and hence are also willing to do absolutely anything with that power once they have it. If one thinks about it long enough, one will realize that all tyrants, past and most especially present, MUST use deception on their population to initiate a war. No citizen of a modern industrialized nation will send their children off to die in a war to grab another nation's resources and assets, yet resources and assets are what all wars are fought over. The nation that wishes to initiate a war of conquest must create the illusion of an attack or a threat to start a war, and must always give their population of cowards an excuse never to question that carefully crafted illusion.

It is naive, not to mention racist to assume that tyrants appear only in other nations and that somehow America is immune simply because we're Americans. America has escaped the clutches of a dictatorship thus far only through the efforts of those citizens who, unlike the Germans of the 1930s, have the moral courage to stand up and point out where the government is lying to the people. And unless more Americans are willing to have that kind of individual courage, then future generations may well look back on the American people with the same harshness of judgement with which we look back on the 1930s Germans.

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 2005/6/22 0:40
ravin
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 Re: When will we learn from history?

Jesus day wasn't all to diffrent, Jesus came from a nation, tribe,spirit believing people.
Jesus didn't fight roman, he fought for the hearts and souls of men. when asked about roman his answer was render unto ceaser the thing that are his and unto God the things that are God's.
He wasn't interested in what Roman was doing, but what his Father's will was for his people. " I only do what I see my Father doing." word to that effect.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ"
Our fight isn't with flesh and blood,Jesus said He didn't come to bring peace.
My kindom is not of this world. we must not look to the things of this world but to heaven.
We must DO the will of the Father, as his son and our friend. "I call you friend."(Jesus)
All must come to pass as it is written.

 2005/6/22 2:38Profile
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 Re: When will we learn from history?

Too true.

Spiritual ramifications?

RT

 2005/6/22 3:13Profile
Zapthycat
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I think it's somewhat stupid to think that Bush staged the WTC terrorist attacks to get himself more popularity. I think that's typical of what the radical left wingers in the USA like Michael Moore say of him. I'm not saying it's impossible... at the heart of the matter, I don't care.

I agree with Ravin. Jesus sought to establish a kingdom that wasn't linked with the kingdoms of this earth. I look at the "evangelical" movements in the USA today and get incredibly bothered by the fact that they follow GWB and claim that he is a man "led by God" and so forth. They don't know him. Just because he says a prayer on national television, he is their hero, when in fact he could be the antichrist himself. Think about it! The Bible states very plainly that there will be STRONG DECEPTION, that the very elect will be decieved, and believe a lie.

I think it's very wrong for anyone to be following after GWB if they call themselves a Christian. Sure... go sing "God Bless America" and forget for a moment that the USA has become a rotting carcass filled with immorality and sin. We may be free right now, to a degree, but is that what the modern Christian puts his trust him? Never.

As for me... the government can do what it wants to do, it's not the mandate of a christian to interfere with government. My mandate is to win souls. The government can do whatever... I don't put my trust in it or in any person on this earth...

Psalms 118:6 - It is better to trust in God than in man.

And so I trust in God, and in his word. Not in the vile kingdoms of this earth...


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 2005/6/22 3:19Profile
ravin
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 Re:

"As for me... the government can do what it wants to do, it's not the mandate of a christian to interfere with government. My mandate is to win souls. The government can do whatever... I don't put my trust in it or in any person on this earth... "by Zapthycat




That is good thinking Being Native American our people have heard a lot of promises for the most all broken, hard to think that the Goverment is Chistain. so I look to the author and finisher of my faith. Keep following the Master let earths goverment do as they will, it's all in the masters will. may God be praised.

 2005/6/22 13:49Profile









 Re: Who cares about America?

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think it's somewhat stupid to think that Bush staged the WTC terrorist attacks to get himself more popularity.



It might be stupid if all he did it for was to get more popular. But he and his global elite masters did it for a more sinister reason than that! They did it to get you to give up your God given rights and freedoms. And it really worked.

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I think that's typical of what the radical left wingers in the USA like Michael Moore say of him.



Michael Moore is just a puppet to give liberals a part to play in the false "left vs. right" paradigm. In truth, there is only one party: the NWO party. It wasn't Clinton who called for a NWO, it was W's father. And we all know that Billary is pro NWO. I would put myself on the conservative Christian side of things. Abortion is murder, Bill of Rights, etc.

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I'm not saying it's impossible... at the heart of the matter, I don't care.



Well to be quite frank with you, all of us here in the USA should thank God every day for the freedoms we have been given by the previous generations of American Protestants. These freedoms have been monumental to the spreading of the gospel around the world.

So who cares about this 'ol beacon on a hill? I do.

Infowars

 2005/6/22 14:03





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