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 Church of England: LGBT 'Not a Sin'


The General Synod of the Church of England has officially passed a motion welcoming and affirming transgender people to the church. A top bishop also declared that being LGBT is "not a sin."

"That this Synod, recognizing the need for transgender people to be welcomed and affirmed in their parish church, call on the House of Bishops to consider whether some nationally commended liturgical materials might be prepared to mark a person's gender transition," the motion that passed on Sunday reads.
As the official CofE website points out, the vote went overwhelmingly in favor of welcoming transgender people, with 30 for the motion and two opposed in the House of Bishops; 127 who backed the motion and 28 against it in the House of Clergy; and 127 for and 48 against in the House of Laity. ...

read more: http://www.christianpost.com/news/church-of-england-votes-to-affirm-transgender-people-top-bishop-says-lgbt-not-a-sin-191424/


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 Re: Church of England: LGBT 'Not a Sin'

Half of England is atheist, half Muslim and the other half is deceived.

I know what I said. But, if the church can mark a non existent gender there are three halves of everything.


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David Wilkerson used to lament that the church of england was closing churches. But who is lamenting now when churches are accepting LGBT which is an abomination to God?


Leviticus 18:22


New International Version
"'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

New Living Translation
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.

English Standard Version
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

New American Standard Bible
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

King James Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
You are not to sleep with a man as with a woman; it is detestable.

International Standard Version
You are not to have sexual relations with a male as you would with a woman. It's detestable."

NET Bible
You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act.

New Heart English Bible
"'You shall not have sexual relations with a male, as with a woman. That is detestable.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.

JPS Tanakh 1917
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

New American Standard 1977
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Thou shalt not lie with males as with women; it is abomination.

King James 2000 Bible
You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination.

American King James Version
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.

Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.

English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable.

Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.


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Let's hope all those churches close.


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 2017/7/11 8:52Profile
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Dolfan, my wife is from England. She can absolutely confirm this to be true. It is largely a Muslim country at this point with those who are English being largely atheist


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Britain is a post Christian country...........bro Frank


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 Re: Church of England: LGBT 'Not a Sin'

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As the official CofE website points out, the vote went overwhelmingly in favor of welcoming transgender people,



The problem here is with VOTING. If you are in a Church that decides things by VOTING then please run from the Church now itself. It is just the matter of time before they will collapse to any moral decline. Voting is not at all God's way of doing thing. God wanted to elect Kings for Israel. Never asked them to Vote. In New Covenant as well Paul asks Timothy to appoint Elders not to vote for elders.

The fact that there is a voting is clear sign that they want people to decide what to do, what is best for them. But God wants us to seek his will and ways in everything.

Any Church that conducts voting is already on a path of decline. PERIOD. God is true. If we seek to please men we cannot please God (Gal 1:10). I know many reads will be saying that VOTING is just a small thing, why should we take that serious in our church. But that shows the Church's careless attitude towards pleasing God.


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Let's hope all those churches close.


Wasn’t the Church birthed into the kind of situation we see today? I think of how Paul handled this situation in his epistle to the Romans. After describing the sinfulness of the culturally-minded people (Rom. 1), he describes the sinfulness of the religiously-minded people (Rom. 2). Paul doesn’t take sides in this Gentile/Jewish divide (which sounds much like our left vs right divide). Instead he changes the direction of the divide – from horizontal to vertical. The divide is actually between God and sinner. “There is no difference for all have sinned…” (Rom. 3)

It’s tempting to focus on one symptom (sexual identities) without realizing that we may be doing the same thing, just as Paul says in Rom 2. We may be placing our identity in something about ourselves – if not our sexual preference, it’s our religious preference, and we too may assert our self-righteousness. But Paul brings the focus to the universal need for Christ – and in Him these other identities matter little. (“I count it all rubbish” he says.)

I hope we can see more of that emphasis today - beginning in "the household of God"!!



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 Re: Church of England: LGBT 'Not a Sin'

This movement or that movement is continually exposing themselves as having fallen astray. But what is also being exposed is the danger of men bringing there conscience under the subjection of a leader or movement



 2017/7/11 12:05Profile
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Diane, the focus is not on one symptom, the focus is on what is true and what is not. If the Scriptures are not true, for instance, and homosexuality is acceptable within the Body then let a man or a women come forward and say the Bible is in error. If it is not in error then let us, within the Body, conform to the Word and expound the Word. Carnality in all its many expressions were not acceptable to Paul. He does not commend carnality. In Romans he chooses to expound on the very subject of homosexuality placing in the category of the end of rebellion, the chief of all rebellion is found in this very sin because it denies the very essence of what God has created. The emphasis today should be on truth and whether we accept that truth or not.........bro Frank


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